New Victron DC-DC Charger - Orion XS 1400

[PaulRainbow]

Works on 12V systems @ 100A Max or 24V systems @ 50A Max. Big step up for 24V systems that were 17A Max previously, plus has a VE Direct connection.

https://www.victronenergy.com/dc-dc-converters/orion-xs-dc-dc-battery-chargers

 

[gregcope]

Looks nice! Victron have been a little behind in terms of features in the B2B space.

 

[jakew009]

Works on 12V systems @ 100A Max or 24V systems @ 50A Max. Big step up for 24V systems that were 17A Max previously, plus has a VE Direct connection.

https://www.victronenergy.com/dc-dc-converters/orion-xs-dc-dc-battery-chargers

Are you sure it’s 100A? I thought it was still 50A max.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Are you sure it’s 100A? I thought it was still 50A max.

Just had a closer look and it seems you're right. Looks like it's 50A for either 12V or 24V, despite the 1400W blurb. Still a big improvement for 24V systems, which were previously 17A with no VE Direct connections.

 

[jakew009]

Just had a closer look and it seems you're right. Looks like it's 50A for either 12V or 24V, despite the 1400W blurb. Still a big improvement for 24V systems, which were previously 17A with no VE Direct connections.

Yeah I have one fitted. Just used the standard one because for a 12V system the 1400 has no benefit.

It’s mildly interesting being able to see its output in real time.

 

[john_morris_uk]

We have one of these:

Victron Energy Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger

It charges our 12v lithium at 50 amps. It’s got a VE connection.

What’s the benefit of the new one over ours?

 

[lustyd]

It’s mildly interesting being able to see its output in real time

I use mine to set the revs when just charging so the engine is quieter, slowly increase until desired amps are achieved

 

[PaulRainbow]

We have one of these:

Victron Energy Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger

It charges our 12v lithium at 50 amps. It’s got a VE connection.

What’s the benefit of the new one over ours?

I've not looked in detail at the 1400 John, but even if they have added or improved something i doubt it would be worth changing.

 

[john_morris_uk]

I've not looked in detail at the 1400 John, but even if they have added or improved something i doubt it would be worth changing.

Agreed. I was just wondering what difference there was for my application. I can’t see any.

Just an academic question really.

 

[sailorbenji]

We have one of these:

Victron Energy Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger

It charges our 12v lithium at 50 amps. It’s got a VE connection.

What’s the benefit of the new one over ours?

Nothing, it's just dual voltage, but you don't need that in your system probably.

 

[Trident]

Very disappointing for 12v systems really - especially at £300. Renogy do a 60 amp with two cooling fans for half that and they have been very reliable for many years. Victron make great stuff but as someone said above they do seem to have been very cautious in the DCDC market

 

[PaulRainbow]

Very disappointing for 12v systems really - especially at £300. Renogy do a 60 amp with two cooling fans for half that and they have been very reliable for many years. Victron make great stuff but as someone said above they do seem to have been very cautious in the DCDC market

The XS 12/12-50 is about £275, it will need a close look to see if there's any benefit in paying the extra for the XS 1400.

For 24V systems the 24/24-17 is about £185 and doesn't have the VE direct connection. To get 50A you'd need 3 of these, so £300 for a single XS 1400 is a better buy and Renogy don't do 24V DC-DC chargers, so a win for me with my 24V systems.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Very disappointing for 12v systems really - especially at £300. Renogy do a 60 amp with two cooling fans for half that and they have been very reliable for many years. Victron make great stuff but as someone said above they do seem to have been very cautious in the DCDC market

That’s a fair comment except the way that Victron gear all connects together and talks to the Cerbo GX & allows me to see what’s happening on the touch display makes it worth the money for me.

 

[Trident]

Horses for courses - I agree for the 24v its very useful (hence I specified my disappointment for 12v only) - and yes if one has a Victron heavy system then it makes sense to stay Victron but its a high price for a 12v 50 amp DCDC

I have Victron for MPPT (having changed from Renogy to integrate multiple MPPT charges to work together on a network ) and inverter and shunts but I haven't changed my two 60 amp Renogy DCDC because they remain unused except to test them because we have 3kw solar and have never needed to use the DCDC . I think until Victron come up with a better 12v product I wouldn't be tempted to change just for the integration (if I did need the boost of DCDC) - I'd rather manually monitor the charge cycle and turn off the DCDC manually. I don't have them wired to ignition but instead via activation switches so I can turn them on and off as needed rather than wanting them to be autonomous ... with a mono and less solar I imagine they are more vital than for my boat so the integration might be important .