New Targa 58

this looks a real winner for Fairline

yes I have seen the layout of the front head in the past, was used by some classic styled Italian boats like San Lorenzo with the 57 and 62 as well as Antago yachts or the old Canados...
actually I always thought it was a clever idea and see it more simple in weight distribution terms to the more famous today full beam owners cabin
still well done to Fairline design team this is a nice concept

this was updated on Fairline website last Monday, and today released as project on www.poweryachtblog.com
 
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In my mind the only thing that spoils it, is the layout on the "portholes". Not sure whether it's the shape or just that they look too randomly spread out.

I wouldn't say no though!
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
this looks a real winner for Fairline

yes I have seen the layout of the front head in the past, was used by some classic styled Italian boats like San Lorenzo with the 57 and 62 as well as Antago yachts or the old Canados...
actually I always thought it was a clever idea and see it more simple in weight distribution terms to the more famous today full beam owners cabin
still well done to Fairline design team this is a nice concept

this was updated on Fairline website last Monday, and today released as project on www.poweryachtblog.com
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Agree with you, PY. It seems to make sense to me to put the heads in the pointy end of the boat. After all the heads is one of the least used spaces on any boat. I dont think though that every cabin needs an en suite heads. As an owner, I would be happy for 1 heads to be shared between the 2 guest cabins and the space for the 3rd heads given over to a small seating area or extra space for the master cabin. I think that aft window design for the crew cabin is silly though
 
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1- I dont think though that every cabin needs an en suite heads. As an owner, I would be happy for 1 heads to be shared between the 2 guest cabins and the space for the 3rd heads given over to a small seating area or extra space for the master cabin.
2- I think that aft window design for the crew cabin is silly though
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1- I prefare three heads especially if the single berths become double and you want more private to your guests
2- agree same as new 65 Squadron, hope they make an option for this be changed
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
1- I prefare three heads especially if the single berths become double and you want more private to your guests
2- agree same as new 65 Squadron, hope they make an option for this be changed
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I think the real point with having 3 heads is that the boat becomes more attractive for charter customers but, as a private owner, I wouldn't want space wasted on facilities that I don't use. On my boat the 2 guests cabins share a heads and they can like it or lump it!
 
silver_boy said:
Pics and details now on Fairline Website - I like the looks with a nice layout, and heads in the proper place!

Targa 58
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Looks very nice, look forward to seeing it. I like the external lines and the layout with forward master cabin and heads. Bit worried that the outside table and banquette seating is too small for lunch. I like the way the hull goes right to the end of the platform, so not sacrificing hull length for an up down platform. I love the swim ladder and would love to retrofit that to my boat! I think the transom window is great idea and can't figure out why people dont like it. The glass is blackened so it's opaque and has blinds for night time. Sunseeker do the same eg the 70 hattan and new Pred 74 transoms. Fairline have been rumoured to be switching from Raymarine to those Garmin touch screens and the rendering of the helm station suggests this new boat will have Garmin gear
 
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I think the transom window is great idea and can't figure out why people dont like it.
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I don't like it - altho' not quite so bad on the T58 as Sq65 imho - because, whereas on something like your boat the stern view is businesslike, and boatlike, this looks like a mansard roof retrofitted on a townhouse to make one more bedroom and, moreover, it draws the eye to the white plastic surrounding the window. Just my opinion, of course.
 
Looks jolly nice and some excellent features, really moves the targa range up a gear which to be honest needed a bit up ooomph injected. Agree with JFM's comment but overall a lovely bit of kit, they should re brand Fair-etti :-) a good challanger to the med builders and quality build too. 9/10. If they could bung in a pair of IPS 900's it would be 10/10
 
benjenbav said:
I don't like it - altho' not quite so bad on the T58 as Sq65 imho - because, whereas on something like your boat the stern view is businesslike, and boatlike, this looks like a mansard roof retrofitted on a townhouse to make one more bedroom and, moreover, it draws the eye to the white plastic surrounding the window. Just my opinion, of course.
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Hmm, you may well have a point there BJB about mansard-ery. I was defending merely the concept of transom window, not the specific detialing that Fairline have adopted. I have only seen it in the flesh on sunseekers (hattan 70 and pred 74, iirc) and i gotta say they have done it very well, framelessly, indeed many brief observers would think it's a transom strip not a window. You're right in that the detailed excution matters, and if there is a messy frame that the eye is drawn to then that's not good. I've no idea about how Fairline have done it, haven't seen one yet, but will take a look at SIBS or whenever.
 
By the way, is the swim ladder also a passerelle? Anyone know? That would be quite neat The last boat to do that was the WallyPower 118 I think :-)

And how do you launch the tender? It goes on the platform because there's no garge I think, and the platform isn't up/down (I think) and there's no passerelle crane combo, and no freestanding crane. So how does it work?
 
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jfm said:
By the way, is the swim ladder also a passerelle? Anyone know? That would be quite neat The last boat to do that was the WallyPower 118 I think :-)

And how do you launch the tender? It goes on the platform because there's no garge I think, and the platform isn't up/down (I think) and there's no passerelle crane combo, and no freestanding crane. So how does it work?
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Maybe they forgot all about the dinghy - just like the Sq 66 65 or 68 (whatever they call it)


Just joking - ther must be a solution
 
jfm said:
By the way, is the swim ladder also a passerelle? Anyone know? That would be quite neat The last boat to do that was the WallyPower 118 I think :-)
And how do you launch the tender? It goes on the platform because there's no garge I think, and the platform isn't up/down (I think) and there's no passerelle crane combo, and no freestanding crane. So how does it work?
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Itama's use this concept of swim stairs/ladder and passarelle
for the small Itama Forty if you put a big tender there you will need a passarelle or crane, they offer passarelle
for the Itama Fifty Five this has a low high bathing platform so no need of a passarelle or crane

I guess the 58 Targa GT will need a passarelle if you put a big tender there...
infact the only thing I dont like for this boat is why it does not have a high low bathing platform, I think if they followed Azimut concept this could have been made very neat...

still lately I am seeing many builders today forgetting a save tender stowage space nowadays after this became such a crucial issue in the end of the nineties...
 
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I see it also mentions the D13-900 engines. Volvo only seem to have released details of this a couple of days ago! Maybe Fairline were meant to keep quiet and have forced volvo into releasing these details...?
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
Itama's use this concept of swim stairs/ladder and passarelle
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Ah yes I'd forgotten, yes you're right that Itama do it. Besenzoni make the unit custom for Itama. I was berthed next to a 55 in Calvi 2 weeks ago and the owner gave me a full demo. (I think Wally did it first though?)
 
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