chrisbailey
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news in brief latest YM, fees have risen to £25. Another Stealth Tax? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
New RIP OFF - Small Ships Register Fees more than Doubled.
- Thread starter chrisbailey
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trouville
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Yachting monthly and PBO are expensive enough in Europe!!
The SSR is a ships registration!!
As a govenment body Gordon browns or tony blier are the lobiest reps it couldent go up? Could it?It wouldent bring them enough backhanders (holidays use of villers in the bahamas etc)
When mr belisconie was president blair went to tuscany or sardinia often??Now carabean???
The SSR is a ships registration!!
As a govenment body Gordon browns or tony blier are the lobiest reps it couldent go up? Could it?It wouldent bring them enough backhanders (holidays use of villers in the bahamas etc)
When mr belisconie was president blair went to tuscany or sardinia often??Now carabean???
Count yourself lucky you do not own a French registered boat, their annual private craft registration fee is about £150.
Woodentop
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It is optional. British law does not require you to place your boat on a registry.
Try another flag and see if that is cheaper and less legally restrictive.
Try another flag and see if that is cheaper and less legally restrictive.
cliff
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news in brief latest YM, fees have risen to £25. Another Stealth Tax? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
[/ QUOTE ]Yea, £25 for 5 years' registration - seems to me a real rip-off, I mean a whole £5 per year for being a "British Registered" vessel. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I'd better get a 1 gallon bottle of whiskey (and have fun emptying it) and start putting a 2p coin in it every day to save up for this rip-off "stealth tax". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Yea I know after 5 years I will have £36.50 but my SSR runs out in about 41 months time (July 2010) so I just have enough time to save up for the new registration. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Unless it goes up again /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
In which case I may have to give up boating /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Did I read somewhere French registration is around £150 per year? AND THEY do have a lot of "red tape" and strange regulations. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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news in brief latest YM, fees have risen to £25. Another Stealth Tax? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
[/ QUOTE ]Yea, £25 for 5 years' registration - seems to me a real rip-off, I mean a whole £5 per year for being a "British Registered" vessel. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I'd better get a 1 gallon bottle of whiskey (and have fun emptying it) and start putting a 2p coin in it every day to save up for this rip-off "stealth tax". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Yea I know after 5 years I will have £36.50 but my SSR runs out in about 41 months time (July 2010) so I just have enough time to save up for the new registration. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Unless it goes up again /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
In which case I may have to give up boating /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Did I read somewhere French registration is around £150 per year? AND THEY do have a lot of "red tape" and strange regulations. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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Lakesailor
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It's £61 a year cheaper than me registering my boat on Windermere, so I am not moaning.
bilbobaggins
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Only £25, eh? Well, that's quite a lot cheaper than the £38 for the RYA's ICC - each cert for five years only.
It seems the DVLC people who manage the SSR database and admin are doing a more economic job than the RYA - which was one of the arguments when the task shifted from the RYA to the DVLA well over a decade ago.
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It seems the DVLC people who manage the SSR database and admin are doing a more economic job than the RYA - which was one of the arguments when the task shifted from the RYA to the DVLA well over a decade ago.
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Sans Bateau
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chrisb200, welcome to the forum.
As you will have now experienced the guys (and girls!) on here can be very brutal at times. In fact they are not all that bad (b4$tards! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif), speaks someone who often gets beaten up! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Whilst you are right to draw to our attention to this price rise and yes in % terms it is a huge hike. But in real terms it is still very little money.
I hope you enjoy the day to day banter of the forum and hope you get stuck in and give others a slap when they drop their guard! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
As you will have now experienced the guys (and girls!) on here can be very brutal at times. In fact they are not all that bad (b4$tards! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif), speaks someone who often gets beaten up! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Whilst you are right to draw to our attention to this price rise and yes in % terms it is a huge hike. But in real terms it is still very little money.
I hope you enjoy the day to day banter of the forum and hope you get stuck in and give others a slap when they drop their guard! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
chrisbailey
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I am just amazed that they can all take it so lightly, they must all have money to burn, rather fuels the inacurate augument of sailing being a rich mans sport.
trouville
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I dont mind the price,yet!What annoyed me about Brown was that he made the part 1 reg renewable and very expensive!!
I had the blue book for years on my last two boats at the end i was told they werent valid and i had better get an SSR good advice to stay legal but i dident,i just went on useing my old blue book!
What might be worrying is if no one screems EXPENSIVE 500% increase the SSR price may go up to near part 1 reg price??? who knows what the future taxes have in store??
I had the blue book for years on my last two boats at the end i was told they werent valid and i had better get an SSR good advice to stay legal but i dident,i just went on useing my old blue book!
What might be worrying is if no one screems EXPENSIVE 500% increase the SSR price may go up to near part 1 reg price??? who knows what the future taxes have in store??
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So lets compare ....
VHF licence fee (Ship Station) was £20 per annum - now £0.
SSR fee was £5 per 5 years .... now increased to £25 for 5 years.
VHF over 5 years = £100 previous, now £0
SSR over 5 years = £5 previous, now £25
Seems I'm £75 better off over 5 years ? Am I wrong ? Actually I'm not as I have 2 boats on SSR ... so really I'm £50 better off - as one boat has no VHF !
VHF licence fee (Ship Station) was £20 per annum - now £0.
SSR fee was £5 per 5 years .... now increased to £25 for 5 years.
VHF over 5 years = £100 previous, now £0
SSR over 5 years = £5 previous, now £25
Seems I'm £75 better off over 5 years ? Am I wrong ? Actually I'm not as I have 2 boats on SSR ... so really I'm £50 better off - as one boat has no VHF !
SwedishLass
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Having just coughed £50 to renew the part 1 to get a laminated bit of card for another 5 years, it seems so much better value than £175 for the annual paper disc, unlaminated, on the car ;-).
With all these new twirly things they are putting in the Thames perhaps the rises are to pay for signposts, speed cameras and sodium lamps on the major routes
At least the radio is free.
With all these new twirly things they are putting in the Thames perhaps the rises are to pay for signposts, speed cameras and sodium lamps on the major routes
At least the radio is free.
Birdseye
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Re: So lets compare ....
[ QUOTE ]
VHF licence fee (Ship Station) was £20 per annum - now £0.
SSR fee was £5 per 5 years .... now increased to £25 for 5 years.
VHF over 5 years = £100 previous, now £0
SSR over 5 years = £5 previous, now £25
Seems I'm £75 better off over 5 years ? Am I wrong ? Actually I'm not as I have 2 boats on SSR ... so really I'm £50 better off - as one boat has no VHF !
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You're no better off - the govt is still spending like a sailor on leave, and what you dont pay in licenses you will pay in tax. Just face it, your money gets taken away and wasted without you even having the fun of doing it yourself - you're like one of those AI bulls. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
[ QUOTE ]
VHF licence fee (Ship Station) was £20 per annum - now £0.
SSR fee was £5 per 5 years .... now increased to £25 for 5 years.
VHF over 5 years = £100 previous, now £0
SSR over 5 years = £5 previous, now £25
Seems I'm £75 better off over 5 years ? Am I wrong ? Actually I'm not as I have 2 boats on SSR ... so really I'm £50 better off - as one boat has no VHF !
[/ QUOTE ]
You're no better off - the govt is still spending like a sailor on leave, and what you dont pay in licenses you will pay in tax. Just face it, your money gets taken away and wasted without you even having the fun of doing it yourself - you're like one of those AI bulls. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
rhumlady
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Re: So lets compare ....
The one thing that gets me about the SSR is that you get nothing for it. It proves nothing and a thief can easily register your boay in anyones name and get a number befor he steals it and sells it on to someone who knows no better!
My boat was part 1 when I bought her and is staying that way.
The one thing that gets me about the SSR is that you get nothing for it. It proves nothing and a thief can easily register your boay in anyones name and get a number befor he steals it and sells it on to someone who knows no better!
My boat was part 1 when I bought her and is staying that way.
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SSR no different to Car Log-book ....
Neither say they are Legal Owner docs ... so what's problem ?
Neither say they are Legal Owner docs ... so what's problem ?
rhumlady
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Re: SSR no different to Car Log-book ....
Just looked at my 'Certificate of British Registry and on the back it says that there are 64 shares and that these are owned by me. That should be good for anyone but I do agree it says that it is not proof of ownership. Only government bureaucracy could do that.
Just looked at my 'Certificate of British Registry and on the back it says that there are 64 shares and that these are owned by me. That should be good for anyone but I do agree it says that it is not proof of ownership. Only government bureaucracy could do that.
BrendanS
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Re: SSR no different to Car Log-book ....
Surely the ssr was never intended to be proof of ownership, just a simple way to meet French etc requirements for documentation so that you can visit without getting fined (or having to go through the palaver of getting a Part I) as we have no UK compulsory registration scheme.
Surely the ssr was never intended to be proof of ownership, just a simple way to meet French etc requirements for documentation so that you can visit without getting fined (or having to go through the palaver of getting a Part I) as we have no UK compulsory registration scheme.
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Re: SSR no different to Car Log-book ....
If you have 64ths .... then you must be Part 1 Reg'd not SSR.
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If you have 64ths .... then you must be Part 1 Reg'd not SSR.
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