New MCA regulations: Coding a pleasure boat if a commercial person is to move it

[PhillM]

At the boat show today I talked to a nice chap from the MCA. He was handing out leaflets about this new code that will come into force in January 19.

Basically, if we ask someone to move our boat (say a yard etc), we have to self-certify that is meets a certain specification i.e. coding-light. It also affects using your rib as a race support boat.

More info here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...re-vessel-ipv-code-pleasure-vessel-exemptions

 

[capnsensible]

This should be fun.

 

[Captn D]

Strikes of too many beureaucats with too little to do!

 

[Sandy]

I wonder how often this actually happens? I tend to move the boat about if it is needed by a yard.

 

[awol]

Does this mean we can knock 4% of our length in marinas as per para 2.7 of the code?

 

[VicS]

I cant read any of the documents. My computer has Windows 10 There is nothing that reads docx files.

 

[PhillM]

I think it will apply to every delivery job.

 

[Alan ashore]

I think it will apply to every delivery job.

That's not my reading - specifically a delivery job paid for by the owner, and which is not in support of a commercial purpose, seems to be exempt, as in:

3. Vessel Use Excluded from the Application of Part 1 of this Code of Practice

3.1 Any vessel which is in use within the definition of a Pleasure Vessel. This may include a post-purchase delivery if that delivery is only for the sport or pleasure of the Owner or their immediate family or friends if owned by an individual. This may include delivery by a specialist delivery organisation if the vessel is wholly owned by an individual or individuals and no payments are made by or on behalf of users of the vessel, other than by the Owner. Such vessels need not require certification to a Code of Practice or merchant shipping regulations but will need to comply with Class XII requirements if the vessel is 13.7m in length or over​

 

[lw395]

I cant read any of the documents. My computer has Windows 10 There is nothing that reads docx files.

That's just a word document.
Open Office reads it and is free.

 

[jdc]

The OP has it backwards I'm afraid (or maybe the MCA person at SIBS did). The purpose of the change - which is only to make official what has been commonplace for years - is to allow temporary commercial use of your yacht. The examples are allowing the yacht to act as an adjunct to something commercial such as a yacht race, a sponsored cross-channel swim or a demo to a potential customer.

Getting your yacht delivered by a professional isn't a commercial use so isn't covered by this, and need not be: having your car serviced by a professional mechanic doesn't make it a goods vehicle.

 

[DJE]

Saw this in the RYA magazine and I'm struggling with all the jargon. Can somebody tell me what is an IPV and how does it differ from other pleasure vessels? What is an ORC liferaft? What is a MGN?

 

[JumbleDuck]

Is this a post-Cheeki Rafiki loophole filling exercise?

 

[Neil_Y]

Try open office or ooreader

 

[Kelpie]

Saw this in the RYA magazine and I'm struggling with all the jargon. Can somebody tell me what is an IPV and how does it differ from other pleasure vessels? What is an ORC liferaft? What is a MGN?

IPV= Intended Pleasure Vessel. This is a new term created by this new regulation. My understanding of it is that an IPV means a boat that is normally used for pleasure use, but is in temporary use in a commercial role.
ORC= Ocean Racing Club. Going from memory I think this is a liferaft standard that has been replaced by an ISO standard number.
MGN= Maritime Guidance Notice. These are documents produced by the MCA to intimate various regulations and rules.

 

[xyachtdave]

Well judging by the way I found my boat tonight after being moved by the marina professionals, I'm not sure what problem this will solve.......coded marine professionals learn how to rig springs and fenders?

 

[RichardS]

Try open office or ooreader

I would go for LibreOffice. It was derived from OpenOffice and is now widely regarded as the best free office package.

Richard

 

[zoidberg]

I would go for LibreOffice. It was derived from OpenOffice and is now widely regarded as the best free office package.

Hey, I did that a year ago, and went to the pub on what I had saved..... twice!

 

[Deleted member 36384]

Is this a post-Cheeki Rafiki loophole filling exercise?

It may be. I was reading about the MCA improving the regulations around this as a result of the CR situation. I am not sure where I read it: RYA, CA or on here; probably the RYA.

 

[VicS]

That's just a word document.
Open Office reads it and is free.

I would go for LibreOffice. It was derived from OpenOffice and is now widely regarded as the best free office package.

Richard

Thanks. Ive been using a file converter ( Zamzar) when necessary.