New Fairline targa 53 gt

[Portofino]

That is absolutely true but SWMBO will soon force a sale if the boat is too uncomfortable at sea or anchor, so whilst the manufacturer makes a sale, they don't get any repeat business........or maybe their answer is just a bigger one next time.....

True in our case it was the slamming of the porto35 that was up there amongst other minor niggles that lost a SS upgrade .
Naturally they were our 1st port of call .
Infact her range of conditions / wind / seastate acceptance was lower than mine so we often did not go out .

Current boat does not put her off and I think we get a lot more days out .So far this season there’s only been 1 day off - true - it was a mistral tail end blowing through , fair enough .

She did poo poo a Riva 52 on the sea trial much to the annoyance of the sales guy cos it slammed too much .
Backward step .
Quite clinical really ride 1st then enter the cabins and look @ €€ .

 

[rubberduck]

Likewise the new Absolutes are under powered & look like bricks, which is why we bought an older one & spent the money upgrading it. (Effort to increase value of said boat )

 

[MapisM]

Yup that is correct. Less hull wetted area, less power needed to drive it. Never mind if it rolls a bit. Sell them a gyro

Precisely.
Apropos, after the experience of the delivery trip and of the last weeks around CF, for us the half idea of fitting a gyro is already off the board for good.
The pure D hull of the old lady was fantastic in many ways, but roll resistance at anchor surely wasn't one of them.
With a same LWL, the DP is for us akin to have moved to a sort of self-stabilized boat!
God bless places not plagued with Mangustas, Leopards and the likes constantly whizzing around...

 

[MapisM]

We are at the fruit. Paolo will understand this

LOL, I don't think that your literal translation of this IT idiom means anything in EN.
"Clutching at straws" is the closest expression popping to my mind.

There are still some decent fast sea hulls around, anyway.
For instance, if PF would ever consider moving up to an 80 footer, in his boots I'd rather look at Otam before …clutching at straws with a sportfisherman!

 

[TonyR123]

Remember you never really get to find out until you have bought it. If you get a test drive it will be short and in good weather.

If a magazine writes a review then they will say that we we going along in a force ( insert stupid number) with waves of ( insert other stupid number) and the hull felt fantastic and the gin and tonic did not spill - so they are either deluded, or conscious that their ever thinner magazine is supported by the manufactures advertising.

As a buyer sea keeping is to most a given. I only really notice after some time when going along in moderately unpleasant weather ( which to be fair doe not happen that often) that the S58 is actually very stable and does not come close to slamming ( or even shuddering for that matter). By contrast by Endurance 33 would SLAM ( buy would it slam) on anything over a force 3.

So unless it has a simply terrible reputation then for most people space will sell. I would not drop £1m on a boat I could not stand up in the mid cabin!

There are two trends I do find troubling ( and obvious).

a. black hulls - why? the solar gain is staggering leading to more AC and GRP that in most cases you cant touch

b. huge huge windows. Same - staggering solar gain. I keep the blinds ( venetian) down most of the time to keep sun out, and in a marina to give privacy

This post is so true.

1: I dont get black hulls or Huge Windows (at least not in the med). I have mesh covers on the boat for 8 months of the year.
2: £1m boat - I/swmbo 100% wants to stand up in the mid cabin - my next boat must have a completely flat floor. Currently have a Prestige 500 but starting to look for next size up already (manhatten 66, squadron 64, pearl 65, galeon 64, etc). My list of must haves is quite long - but that is for another thread.
3: Never get to find out until you have bought it. This is one reason I avoided a brand new hull last time. They ALWAYS make changes so will let someone else find out the issues first. After being around for a year or so then hopefully any issues with the design have been rectified.

 

[Portofino]

There are still some decent fast sea hulls around, anyway.
For instance, if PF would ever consider moving up to an 80 footer, in his boots I'd rather look at Otam before …clutching at straws with a sportfisherman!

Well Itama do a nice 75 but for VFM a Mangusta or Leopard for bang for buck large day boat to loll about on .
There s a lot about and they are growing on me and Mrs Porto importantly .
Not ready yet .

 

[ari]

Those Volvos at 3200 rpm cruise will not go over 2000 hours in very good nick. It is too much rpms and stress for the engines to live a lot.
I would say at 2k rpm you will throw them away, have seen Yanmar who rev a lot with a similar life span.

I think I must be misunderstanding what you've written. Are you suggesting that Volvo D6 engines will be spent and require replacement every 2,000 hours?

 

[EME]

All the 50s that I know had water infiltration problems.
What this has to do with a 53?

Ours definitely did NOT . Apart from when I left the roof open when it was raining. Dry as a bone.