New environmental rules in the Blackwater

[MoodySabre]

Well of course it concerns blackwater etc
https://www.maldon.gov.uk/news/article/6313/tackling_marine_pollution_in_the_blackwater

 

[Hadenough]

So have the provided the infrastructure necessary to comply with this missive?

 

[Leighb]

So what is the definition of the “harbour area”?
If it is the entire Blackwater then we will no longer be able to visit our favourite places.

 

[MoodySabre]

I know nothing else. Like anywhere (including Holland) the enforcement is likely to be almost non-existent.

 

[PaulRainbow]

So have the provided the infrastructure necessary to comply with this missive?

They removed the rubbish skips from West Mersea !!

 

[Lucky Duck]

I wonder if they means boats on residential moorings, otherwise it might be interesting removing the mooring of a boat moored off in Bradwell Marina

 

[tillergirl]

They removed the rubbish skips from West Mersea !!

? The refuse facilities for boats are still there. I used them this week, and the week before, and the week before.

 

[Biggles Wader]

I know nothing else. Like anywhere (including Holland) the enforcement is likely to be almost non-existent.

They might have a purge.:disgust:

 

[johnalison]

I think that most of us would wish for an area such as the upper Blackwater which is much used for leisure to be as clean as possible, but such a ruling will be unenforceable, which negates the purpose of the exercise. My interpretation of 'the harbour area' was the river from Maldon towards Heybridge, but this is still a large volume of water and I doubt if recreational sailors contribute much to the pollution. A policy of education and provision of decent facilities would be much more effective.

 

[Marmalade]

http://mhic.org.uk/ defines harbour area

 

[tillergirl]

There are quite a few who live on boats in the mhic area.

Which reminded me; two years back after some significant work on TG (getting rid of the bilge keels), she had got too dry ashore and on launch in the Heybridge Canal basin so leaked significantly for 12 hours until still took up. As a result her fresh paint in the bilges are very, very stained with a white deposit. I do not exaggerate. I can only think of one cause and I hope I am wrong.

 

[Mandarin331]

http://mhic.org.uk/ defines harbour area

So from Fullbridge to just before Heybridge Basin.

 

[tillergirl]

Correct. Which prompts my guilt to finish off the Chartlets for them. Eek I am late.

 

[PaulRainbow]

? The refuse facilities for boats are still there. I used them this week, and the week before, and the week before.

Did there not used to be some near the sailing club/toilet area, which are no longer there ? I was recently working on a boat there and the owner said there were some bins, but the council removed them.

 

[TimfromMersea]

The bins are still there.

They’ve had a bit of a chequered history just lately. The problem is that they have had a notice on them for some time saying ‘Bins for disposal of boating waste only’, but because they are next to a car park and no one is there at night, following the changes to the ‘black bag regime’ to reduce waste collections, people were driving down there and dumping ordinary household waste, old mattresses, old lawnmowers and all sorts in there.

That caused the bins to overflow, so then they were placed behind a door that had a notice on it that said ‘Fishermen’s Waste Only’. Protests from the boating community were duly made and so the door is now mostly open, and on the inside of the door, so that it can only be seen when the door is open, is another sign saying ‘Boating waste only’. So there is somewhere to dump the gash bin liner when you come ashore.

As to whether the door is closed out of ‘normal boating hours’, or whether it has reduced the general public’s dumping of waste in the bins meant for maritime use only, I can’t say.

Councils always think that if they restrict waste disposal then people will make less waste. They might do in several years time, after a long re education process. At the moment I’m afraid that they will still make the waste, just dump it somewhere else.

It’s thread drift I suppose but I’ve always wondered how people manage to produce so much ‘black sack non reclyclable waste’. Admittedly there are only two of us at home, but we are both retired so at home a lot, and we still struggle to fill half a black bag in the two weeks between collections. I can’t help wondering where the people who fill all the many black sacks get the rubbish from.

 

[tillergirl]

And then there is the complaint about the ugly position of the 'skip' by Dabchicks Sailing Club.....

Come to think of it Paul, ironically I used the bins the day you were there - saw your van. But the gates opening to the skips onto the car park are closed now so not so obvious - the entrance is to seaward. Perhaps closing the main gates actually work as not so obvious - not that I am suggesting you shouldn't have used the bins.

 

[PaulRainbow]

The bins are still there.

They’ve had a bit of a chequered history just lately. The problem is that they have had a notice on them for some time saying ‘Bins for disposal of boating waste only’, but because they are next to a car park and no one is there at night, following the changes to the ‘black bag regime’ to reduce waste collections, people were driving down there and dumping ordinary household waste, old mattresses, old lawnmowers and all sorts in there.

That caused the bins to overflow, so then they were placed behind a door that had a notice on it that said ‘Fishermen’s Waste Only’. Protests from the boating community were duly made and so the door is now mostly open, and on the inside of the door, so that it can only be seen when the door is open, is another sign saying ‘Boating waste only’. So there is somewhere to dump the gash bin liner when you come ashore.

As to whether the door is closed out of ‘normal boating hours’, or whether it has reduced the general public’s dumping of waste in the bins meant for maritime use only, I can’t say.

Councils always think that if they restrict waste disposal then people will make less waste. They might do in several years time, after a long re education process. At the moment I’m afraid that they will still make the waste, just dump it somewhere else.

It’s thread drift I suppose but I’ve always wondered how people manage to produce so much ‘black sack non reclyclable waste’. Admittedly there are only two of us at home, but we are both retired so at home a lot, and we still struggle to fill half a black bag in the two weeks between collections. I can’t help wondering where the people who fill all the many black sacks get the rubbish from.

Thanks for that information Tim, i'll pass it along next time i see the boat owner in question.

 

[DavidofMersea]

The report says we "must dispose of all waste responsibly, including bilge waste. ....... and ask that boat owners dispose of their rubbish thoughtfully",

How do we dispose of bilge water responsibly/thoughtfully? are we supposed to take it home with us?

 

[tillergirl]

The bilge water in TG used to come from the Blackwater! Apart from that day in the Basin!

 

[DavidofMersea]

The bilge water in TG used to come from the Blackwater! Apart from that day in the Basin!

It may have come from the Blackwater, but how did you dispose of it "responsibly/thoughtfully?" Surely you did not just dump it in the river, that is not "responsibly/thoughtfully?"