New Cranchi
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julians
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Looks good , and nice to see some manufacturers (other than the yanks) building smaller boats again.
stelican
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And a nice stern.
petem
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Its an e26 Classic. I spotted it in MBY the other week and thought is looked particularly attractive. It's a shame they don't offer the Classic with an outboard (as they will the e26 Rider) as that would make an even better day boat (IMO).
Renderings here: http://www.cranchi.com/range_classification/e26/
I've suggested to Fairline that they make something similar or else I might be taking my future custom elsewhere!
Renderings here: http://www.cranchi.com/range_classification/e26/
I've suggested to Fairline that they make something similar or else I might be taking my future custom elsewhere!
MapisM
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Well, I wish them to sell them as hot cakes - and they deserve respect for trying, anyhow.
But TBH, I can't see in which way that boat could be considered better than some others for which imho the "classic" label is much more appropriate.
Just look at the example below of another 26 footer, whose builder btw has a definitely stronger reputation for high quality boats...
petem
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Well, I wish them to sell them as hot cakes - and they deserve respect for trying, anyhow.
But TBH, I can't see in which way that boat could be considered better than some others for which imho the "classic" label is much more appropriate.
Just look at the example below of another 26 footer, whose builder btw has a definitely stronger reputation for high quality boats...
This chap reckons it's got two engines plus a bathroom...
http://www.poweryachtblog.com/2010/01/new-model-colombo-26-bellagio.html?m=1
MapisM
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And what's wrong with that...
Mr Googler
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stelican
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Very nice but probably twice the price and a specialised lake boat. Cranchi will be looking at the world marketWell, I wish them to sell them as hot cakes - and they deserve respect for trying, anyhow.
But TBH, I can't see in which way that boat could be considered better than some others for which imho the "classic" label is much more appropriate.
Just look at the example below of another 26 footer, whose builder btw has a definitely stronger reputation for high quality boats...
petem
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And what's wrong with that...
It's only got one engine I believe!
MapisM
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Aha, I see what you meant. But so does the Cranchi, I think?
That's a somewhat understandable mistake, anyway: the very popular 2.5m beam (to stay within the IT trailer limit) is just enough for fitting also twin engines, and several yards offer it as an alternative installation, at that size.
That's a somewhat understandable mistake, anyway: the very popular 2.5m beam (to stay within the IT trailer limit) is just enough for fitting also twin engines, and several yards offer it as an alternative installation, at that size.
petem
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P, single engine isn't a criticism at all in my eyes. In fact I'm surprised that any builder can get 2 engines into that beam and IMO the engine access constraints that would be the consequences of twins would be a disadvantage.
However, as you may recall, I'm a big fan of Colombo's and I'm pleased that they are back in business (if that's the case). That 26 is indeed very beautiful but I'd be worried about maintaining that wood I think. Also, does it have a table to have lunch on? That would be a show stopper for me if it didn't.
julians
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I'd imagine it will have a table, all other similar boats do ,so no reason why this one wouldn't/couldn't, I bet you have to pay for it as an optional extra though.
We rarely use ours though unless we're overnighting somewhere and it will be up for a long time, it's too much of a space hog/pain to put up and take down otherwise
petem
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Interesting. I'd assumed that you'd leave the cockpit table permanently in place on your boat. Where / how do you make / eat lunch without the table? I guess the open loo is a bit of a compromise too but at least it isn't under the berths.
I'm genuinely interested in this stuff as my next boat will probably be a day boat serving a villa / apartment like your scenario (but not for many years!).
julians
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so on my boat the rear seats are arranged in a U shape, and there is a hole in the floor where you insert a pole that the table slots onto the top of. The table itself is hinged in the middle so you can have it half size or full size, and when not installed on the pole the table fits in a recess on the port side of the boat next to the passenger seat out of the way.
The pole that the table fits on, is hydraulic,ie can be lowered and extended. and when in the lower position the table acts as a platform for some infill cushions that turn the rear U shaped seating area into a sun pad.
We dont use the sun pad at all, but I would imagine that if you did, you'd probably use the table more frequently as all it would take to use it would be to release the hydraulic pole and the table would lift up into place.
Regarding food, we just prepare lunch beforehand in the apartment , so we dont do any food prep on the boat, we just keep it simple, Crusty bread sandwiches, olives etc.
There's also a table in the cabin, but again we dont use it, it also acts as the platform to turn the cabin into a bed, we have the cabin in that configuration all the time.
Small boat = lots of compromises .
petem
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Thanks J, very interesting.
I see that entry into the Sunseeker brand is now the thick end of £1m and £0.5m for Princess. Such as shame that these two brands have totally deserted buyers of more modest means.
At least Fairline have their £250k F-Line which I believe will be joined by a smaller sibling. I'd love them to build something around 26 foot to compete with the smaller Windy's, we'll see. Talking of Windy, I was surprised to see they actually have four boats under 35 foot...
W25 Karma
W27 Solano
W29 Coho
W31 Zonda
...so there must be still be money to be made from building smaller boats. And of course, Axopar are selling boats in the thousands.
For me, if I was in the market for a day boat, I'd be looking for the following:
Length of around 26-27 feet
Choice of sterndrive (with good access for maintenance) or outboard
Double berth
Enclosed toilet compartment
Bimini
Somewhere to lie in the sun (sun pad)
Bow thruster
Table for lunch
Fridge / wetbar (don't need a cooker)
Top speed > 35 kts
Price as close to £100k as possible
In fact, apart from the price I think a Windy 27 Solano would be perfect.
I see that entry into the Sunseeker brand is now the thick end of £1m and £0.5m for Princess. Such as shame that these two brands have totally deserted buyers of more modest means.
At least Fairline have their £250k F-Line which I believe will be joined by a smaller sibling. I'd love them to build something around 26 foot to compete with the smaller Windy's, we'll see. Talking of Windy, I was surprised to see they actually have four boats under 35 foot...
W25 Karma
W27 Solano
W29 Coho
W31 Zonda
...so there must be still be money to be made from building smaller boats. And of course, Axopar are selling boats in the thousands.
For me, if I was in the market for a day boat, I'd be looking for the following:
Length of around 26-27 feet
Choice of sterndrive (with good access for maintenance) or outboard
Double berth
Enclosed toilet compartment
Bimini
Somewhere to lie in the sun (sun pad)
Bow thruster
Table for lunch
Fridge / wetbar (don't need a cooker)
Top speed > 35 kts
Price as close to £100k as possible
In fact, apart from the price I think a Windy 27 Solano would be perfect.
Portofino
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Pete there’s plenty to choose already established players in the sub 30 ft quite accomplished .
Perhaps that’s why the remaining so called big 3 in the U.K. stay away !
So there’s money in them somewhere.
There own market has matured around £1m or just under is now the typical intro guys spend .
Sometimes more not uncommon .They are actually nurturing newbies in the brand(s) it’s just the bar is a lot higher now .
Maybe one day go to Genoa or Cannes and see for yourself :encouragement:
Here’s one , but another is Sessa
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/...5/Italy?refSource=browse listing#.W5OhsBrTWhA
Heres Sessa s 24 they do a 27 as well - click about .
https://keylargo.sessamarine.com/yacht/kl24ib/
Perhaps that’s why the remaining so called big 3 in the U.K. stay away !
So there’s money in them somewhere.
There own market has matured around £1m or just under is now the typical intro guys spend .
Sometimes more not uncommon .They are actually nurturing newbies in the brand(s) it’s just the bar is a lot higher now .
Maybe one day go to Genoa or Cannes and see for yourself :encouragement:
Here’s one , but another is Sessa
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/...5/Italy?refSource=browse listing#.W5OhsBrTWhA
Heres Sessa s 24 they do a 27 as well - click about .
https://keylargo.sessamarine.com/yacht/kl24ib/
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julians
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Pete - My list of features would be (and is ) the same as yours.
If I was buying a new boat now I'd take a close look at an axopar, not sure if they're a bit too utilitarian/like a posh rib for me though.
In an ideal world I'd choose outboard rather than volvo penta sterndrive/inboard , and the choice of outboard boats has widened in recent years, but sterndrive boats are still more numerous for the sort of thing I would want.
Its a shame that draco dont do a boat with a cabin, as that would probably suit me perfectly, but I guess it would step on the toes of the windys.
There are also the various centre console boats like the sessa's,beneteaus etc, and now the cranchi in this thread looks decent in the renders, but would need to see one in the flesh to see how its built. I think the rear seating layout is a bit old fashioned and inflexible. I do like the layout on the new windys.
Its all a moot point for me anyway as I wouldnt be buying new (cant afford it).
If I was buying a new boat now I'd take a close look at an axopar, not sure if they're a bit too utilitarian/like a posh rib for me though.
In an ideal world I'd choose outboard rather than volvo penta sterndrive/inboard , and the choice of outboard boats has widened in recent years, but sterndrive boats are still more numerous for the sort of thing I would want.
Its a shame that draco dont do a boat with a cabin, as that would probably suit me perfectly, but I guess it would step on the toes of the windys.
There are also the various centre console boats like the sessa's,beneteaus etc, and now the cranchi in this thread looks decent in the renders, but would need to see one in the flesh to see how its built. I think the rear seating layout is a bit old fashioned and inflexible. I do like the layout on the new windys.
Its all a moot point for me anyway as I wouldnt be buying new (cant afford it).
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petem
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Buy something foreign, wash your mouth out with soapy water Porto! Only kidding, that Invictus looks like a nice little boat. But I don't see the fact that there's competition as reason for the big three not making something similar to introduce people to the respective brands. I suspect the real reason is that people who can afford a £mil pound boat will buy one at outset, they don't work their way up from 26ft.
Portofino
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Moving up from 20/30;ftr s into the next segment 35 / 40 ish take a look @ Pardo for centre consol
Obviously a hugely different price point ,but illustrates exactly what I mean by the suggested market void that has magically appeared ( NOT ) for Priny , Sunny FL to fill ?
There isn,t a gap
http://www.pardoyachts.com
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Obviously a hugely different price point ,but illustrates exactly what I mean by the suggested market void that has magically appeared ( NOT ) for Priny , Sunny FL to fill ?
There isn,t a gap
http://www.pardoyachts.com
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