New Boat - Princess 56

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Those Vi-Sprung mattresses must have cost a pretty penny. We've got one at home and it is superb. I bet those weren't standard Princess fitment;)
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Vi Spring is also a Plymouth company, based about five miles from Princess. They have an 'exclusive partnership with Princess Yachts'
Bit of trivia :)
 
admillington said:
You have to hand it to Boats.co.uk - they have sold my boat after 2 weeks and this is how they make deals work!
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Yup, also in my (very limited) experience, as I already said in the past, those folks are better than most at their job.

That aside, I see that you had Garmin electronics on the Squaddie.
If you don't mind me asking, weren't you happy with that, considering that you are now speccing Raymarine stuff on the P56?
 
MapisM said:
Yup, also in my (very limited) experience, as I already said in the past, those folks are better than most at their job.

That aside, I see that you had Garmin electronics on the Squaddie.
If you don't mind me asking, weren't you happy with that, considering that you are now speccing Raymarine stuff on the P56?
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Totally happy with the Garmin kit on the Squadron - I changed it from Garmin 5000 series screen to the new 8000 Series. I didn't spec Raymarine as the Princess was near enough complete when I purchased. Now totally have to relearn another operating system!
 
I see. I assumed from your post #60 that the electronics choices were still open.
Regardless, judging by your list, you're going to have more gizmos than most commercial boats which are out there 24/7, with just about any weather...
I'm sure that re-learning to use the dashboard won't take long! :encouragement:
 
MapisM said:
I see. I assumed from your post #60 that the electronics choices were still open.
Regardless, judging by your list, you're going to have more gizmos than most commercial boats which are out there 24/7, with just about any weather...
I'm sure that re-learning to use the dashboard won't take long! :encouragement:
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The Chart Plotters, VHF, Radar, Autopilot, Depth Sounder etc were already installed - my list on post 60 was just the extras.
 
You may already be aware but placing your KVH on the radar arch may very occasionally result in a loss of signal. This is so because he radar scanner etc will interfere with the signal from the Astra satellite. Particularly as these floating things never stay still. I have a v52 with almost the same layout you are installing (although I also installed an active radar reflector).

Looking at your last 58 I suspect that is why the KVH is mounted where it is.
 
admillington said:
http://www.boats.co.uk/boats-for-sale/fairline-squadron-58-1307

You have to hand it to Boats.co.uk - they have sold my boat after 2 weeks and this is how they make deals work!
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In stark contrast to others trying to sell boats:

Covers photographed then taken off so you can see the boat properly

Boat clean

No personal possessions - I would have removed the air freshener spray from the bathroom.

A little bit of staging, towels and so on.

A combination of detailed photos to highlight features and wider angle images to show the general layout.

Then a willingness to make the deal happen.

Henry :)
 
Princess52 said:
You may already be aware but placing your KVH on the radar arch may very occasionally result in a loss of signal. This is so because he radar scanner etc will interfere with the signal from the Astra satellite. Particularly as these floating things never stay still. I have a v52 with almost the same layout you are installing (although I also installed an active radar reflector).

Looking at your last 58 I suspect that is why the KVH is mounted where it is.
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I have the same problem with the 58 - the mast behind the KVH caused a problem when she was on her home berth, taking ages to get a signal.

Did you fit the 3 or 5 Domes?
 
Truro Ex Pat said:
Did you consider a sea keeper? just wondering as heard they are very good.
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+1.
I didn't think to mention it because I wouldn't place it in the "onboard electronics" category, but on such a well equipped boat it's almost a must, imho.
A pretty dear bit of kit of course, but fwiw, in my personal ranking, it would come well before digital radar, sat TV, yacht router, or other similar stuff.
 
MapisM said:
+1.
I didn't think to mention it because I wouldn't place it in the "onboard electronics" category, but on such a well equipped boat it's almost a must, imho.
A pretty dear bit of kit of course, but fwiw, in my personal ranking, it would come well before digital radar, sat TV, yacht router, or other similar stuff.
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I am considering it as a retrofit as it seems it is quite easy to install on a P56 and doesn't involve cutting holes in the boat - just trying to get my head around the money at the moment.
 
admillington said:
I am considering it as a retrofit as it seems it is quite easy to install on a P56 and doesn't involve cutting holes in the boat - just trying to get my head around the money at the moment.
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I'm a big fan of gyros, and it would be the first tick in the options box for me, but I can see that it may be less of a benefit for Solent boaters than other places. Reasons being:

a. It's quite protected, and if you're travelling up or down the Solent, it will normally be a head or following sea, rather than a beam sea, so the gyro will have less effect.
b. People generally anchor out less than in the med, preferring to use marinas or river moorings, and some of the best anchorages are protected anyway, and are not subject to swell (Newtown, Beaulieu)
c. There are so many places close by that boats don't tend to travel as far. As far as I can tell many rarely go out of the Solent

As always, it depends how you use the boat. If you do lots of longer passages out of the Solent in less than ideal conditions, then you'll certainly feel the benefits, especially if you choose to slow down to displacement speed, or have to due to sea conditions. Likewise, if you spend a lot of time anchored in more exposed and rolly spots like Alum Bay, Totland, Studland etc, you'll also be glad you have a gyro.

They're expensive options though, and I think the cost/benefit argument is less clear cut for Solent boaters
 
Just got a price on one and it was £65k inc VAT ouch!
Maybe next year and we are in Spain soI think we would use it a lot at anchor.
 
I'm very slow to this thread admillington - many congratulations on your new ship. She looks stunning (as does your old one, haha!)
 
There is certainly a very big hole into which you could fit a gyro under the cockpit. I don't know the price of a Seakeeper 9 at the moment but speaking with the company whilst out in Singapore they highlighted the need to change anodes as often as every 3 months.

It was also suggested to me that the 24 volt cooling water pumps don't last 2 minutes. 240 volt pumps last for ever, out there you have the genny running anyway. I'm assuming if you have the gyro running you run the generator ?

I think stabilisation is one of the few things you can fit which does add value. I'm not saying the full cost of fitting but something.

I don't know if deleting sat tv, Internet routers etc puts much of a dent in the cost of gyros?

Totally agree with the Solent arguments v other parts of the world.


Henry :)
 
Truro Ex Pat said:
Its a sea keeper 9 and they are a little bit cheaper for reconditioned but not much.
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I nearly bought a new Seakeeper 9 for my boat over the winter so I might be interested. I'll call them. Thanks for the info
 
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