New 33ft Fairline
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JerryC
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£252k (inc VAT) for a single engine day boat? Oh dear.
Whitelighter
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Obviously never looked too closely at the windy catalogue. Or chris craft
Fir a premium boat that's about where the market is.
Can't afford it? Oh dear....
petem
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It's an interesting announcement, in particular when you consider it alongside their recent announcement to buy a new waterside facility that will enable them to build larger yachts than their current 80 foot road transport restriction.
I'm sure it's going to be a stunning boat but that's a lot of money when you consider the new Targa 43 is only a £100k or so more.
What I really hope is that it's not a style over substance job like those dreadful BMW, Aston Martin, etc jobs.
I think I'm going to have to pay another visit to the factory and cop a look at the plans, particularly as I'm an expert now in c.33ft Fairlines
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I'm sure it's going to be a stunning boat but that's a lot of money when you consider the new Targa 43 is only a £100k or so more.
What I really hope is that it's not a style over substance job like those dreadful BMW, Aston Martin, etc jobs.
I think I'm going to have to pay another visit to the factory and cop a look at the plans, particularly as I'm an expert now in c.33ft Fairlines
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jrudge
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i agree is it a lot, but if you look at new boats £500k does not buy much, nor does £1m come to that!
I see 40 foot boats for telephone numbers and wonder why they don't buy a Targa 40, but there are enough people to buy what they are making who have different ideas.
I don't know what Pete paid for his - £100k? no idea really but in that context £250 for a new one is not so bad. Single engine. Halelulia -you don't need 2 engines on a 30 odd foot boat.
JerryC
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Hello Jez, Yes I can easily but I prefer my Princess flybridge, no interest in dayboats, nor firs. BTW what's a "premium boat"
Whitelighter
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Something that isn't produced on a production line, with lots of square genetic joinery with bare GRP on show by the acreage.
Bayliner (nothing wrong with those by the way) vs windy for example.
You can pick up a 30ft bayliner for £80-£100k. The windy 29 Coho starts at £150k and options push it close to £200k
petem
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Interestingly, my boat was £145k plus VAT in 2002 so £250 plus VAT for this new boat is perhaps what you'd expect.
Regarding a single engine I partly agree. If this is a day boat for Mallorca villa owners then a single engine is fine. If you want to go further afield, then I'd prefer a second engine but I don't think this new boat is intended to be a Targa 34 replacement.
Whitelighter
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Why would you prefer the second engine?
The vast majority of engine failures are fuel related, yet the vast majority of twin engine boats in the 10m sector are single tank. So what you get in one you get in the other.
A T34 with a big 370/400hp diesel would be a great boat
The vast majority of engine failures are fuel related, yet the vast majority of twin engine boats in the 10m sector are single tank. So what you get in one you get in the other.
A T34 with a big 370/400hp diesel would be a great boat
petem
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You can have electrical issues too .
But a single engine does appeal from a skinflintery perspective.
.But a single engine does appeal from a skinflintery perspective.
rafiki_
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Pete, this has been said so many times. Most commercial boats have a single engine, and operate happily day after day.You can have electrical issues too
But a single engine does appeal from a skinflintery perspective.
petem
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Nah, I've watched that Trawlermen TV programme and fishing boats do break down.
And don't forget, they are frequently used and are perhaps more reliable and often have an engineer on board.
jrudge
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Single engine planes. Single engine boats. I would gladly take a single engine boat to sea if well maintained.
rafiki_
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Nah, not an Engineer Pete, a fitter or technician. Much more useful on board than an Engineer :encouragement:
ari
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oldgit
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Not sure that a good comparison.
Boat engines are not subject to complusory stringent checks every 50 hours, then again at 150 hours and have a timed life after which the engine has to be totally dismantled/rebuilt to more or less new standards. by well trained (and expensive) engineers.
Even the PFA have regular checks which have to be independantly verified.
The leisure flying community also been been very wary of "electronics" and have left "interesting technical advances" for others to prove reliability..
If a choice, offshore,twin everytime.
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Nick_H
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Is that right? I can see that a good proportion may be fuel supply related (pumps, lift pumps, injectors, split hoses, etc), but that would only affect one engine. I'd have thought electrical and cooling problems also account for a big chunk of engine failures. In fact, i'd guess that actual bad fuel was pretty rare in the UK and western med, where most of us do our boating?
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petem
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I see there's a fold down transom. It would be really neat (for skinflintery purposes) if the LOA could be 9.99m.
wakeup
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The price differential between some new models and 10 yr old equivalents certainly makes re-engine and refit projects more and more viable (man maths of course). The Targa 40 is a great example, a good one can be bought for circa £120k with good engines. Add £30k for an interior refit (covers), new hoods, new nav, praps a larger swim platform a la JtB and you have a great boat for £150k that would cost £350k to £500k.
wakeup
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I did think that the transom platform was rather mean on this rendering, I would struggle with my size 11s to stand on this I think. Very easy to fall off. Not sure about the screen interface or lack of with the parabolic side arches. Are they meant to be hand rails.