Need help identifying a sailboat.

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Hi,

I'm from Norway and need some help identifying this sailboat I just bought. I'm pretty sure it's not scandinavian, most likely european of some sort.

The steering wheel / steering system is not original, and I plan to remove it ASAP. The steering wheel may be british... sure looks like it, but it is not original on this boat so you can disregard it completely...

Other information:
Lifting keel, and two small keels on each side (for stability??)
Length boat: apprx. 5,2 meters / 17 feet
Length mast: apprx. 6 meters.

Thanks in forehand for all help you may be able to provide!

Twin


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I would be extremely cautious with this boat...

I strongly suspect that the three portlights (windows) either side of the coachroof are also a modification, and that the integrity of the structure is in doubt.

Has it been modified as a motorboat, without mast but with outboard (hence the wheel - which would never work for sailing)? At the same time, someone has enlarged existing portlights and then glazed over the new arrangement, perhaps? Are there any structural members (in the cabin) to provide support and bracing for the mast?

"If it looks right, it'll sail right". I'm mildly concerned for you... Tread carefully and get sound advice!
 
No track but looks like a single sheet block just aft of the keel box. Also looks like a mast brace in about the right position in the first photo. My first thought was a Hunter Medina, but not quite.
 
I've also noticed the windows... most likely a modification

I'd love to find out what boat it is... so I can see how it was original... and perhaps restore it as much as possible...

The wheel was installed last winter... but there has been no modification to the mast with support/bracing... so no worries there...
 
I would be very surprised if the previous owner used his sails. It looks to me as if he has converted it to just motor as the outboard steering system has replaced the rudder and tiller.

I suspect the main sheet track works like that on a dinghy I had, where there was a block on each aft corner and the main sheets went from the end of the boom down to one block on port side, then back to end of boom, and then down to block on stbd corner, then to a sheeting off point.
 
twincepto,

It's exactly because there is no modification that I would worry... With the strength in the superstructure being reduced by the cutting out of the portlights, more strength would need to be added to cope with mast loads and mass of crew moving on the cabin top...
 
I wouldn't expect the coach roof to provide much, if any structural integrity to the design. It looks very much like a day boat with a cabin top on.
I would certainly add a mast compression post beneath the mast step. I have done this on my last two 18 foot boats to overcome a saggy coachroof. Just make sure you spread the load on the keel or cabin floor moulding, and investigate the likely load-bearing ability of those areas.

Looking again it seems that the mast step has been rather roughly modified and I think there may be a compression post in the cabin. Just make sure it's all sound and spreads the loads well. Nice wide cockpit, bit like a Hunter Europa in that there is a fixed mainsheet block without a traveller.
Low freeboard and flat aftersections probably point to it being a speedy sail. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I wonder if she is perhaps a Westerly Nimrod? They were built by Westerly in (I think) the late 60's / early 70's. The hull and cabin shape looks similar - have a look at this Nimrod at http://www.gbwebb-art.com/id131.htm, although it is not a lot to go on. If she is a Nimrod, the bilge keels would have been added at a later stage.

Like Oen I would also be rather worried about those extra large windows - they do seem to have been a modification later on. You will need to make sure that the cabin top is strong enough to cope with the compression loadings from the mast when sailing, as well as the weight of crew members lumbering across it. Although as Lake Sailor points out above, there does appear to be a rather sturdy base for the mast, and hopefully it will have a compression post underneath it.
 
I'm afraid I disagree. The Nimrod's cabin is smaller unless the different windows create an optical illusion.
 
On a bit of a tangent here but I love the "Officer" system on the "baatplassen" site - based on number of posts.
Oen would be a 3-striper, lescargot and Talbot 4-stripers and Lake Sailor would be Lord High Admiral of the whole Lake District.

I'm just working up to my first stripe at 20 posts!
Haven't a clue what the boat is.
 
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Lake Sailor would be Lord High Admiral of the whole Lake District.

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May the good lord help us all...
 
Hey... I think I'm on to something. Take a look at these fotos:
http://www.yc-moerbisch.at/pics/archiv/2005/Segelbazar2005/lanaverre.html

It's a Lanaverre 510. It's not exactly the one but the hull is almost identical. The cabin is to short though, but has much of the same shape. I'm pretty certain it's some kind of Lanaverre, probably a other version.

I've been searching for more pictures and can't find any. Can anyone help with links to Lanaverre boats?

Does Lanaverre still produce boats?

Twin
 
Looking at the pictures of other Lanaverre boats, some of them have windows in the cabin that resemble mine. Perhaps they're not modified at all...

Still haven't found the right Lanaverre model though...
 
I haven't seen a boat like this but the hull/deck joint is identical to my Skipper 14 dinghy and I know that Peter Milne designed a 17 foot daysailer. There is a website for Skipper boats but it is not regularly maintained.
 
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