Need boat and engine survey/sea trial completed by 30th Aug

[moretti]

Just had the sale and purchase agreement from broker, says the survey / sea trial on Fairline Targa 30 needs to completed by 30th Aug.

Is this do-able?

Do you guys have any recommendations....boat is in Southampton. Might need more than one recommendation/avenue in case people are busy. thanks in advance

 

[CLB]

Easily doable. I had offer accepted on my last boat based on completion within two weeks. Did it with days to spare.

 

[petem]

I recently used Duncan Saunders (saundersmorganharris.com) after a recommendation by another forumite. Got the job done quite quickly however I would have liked some photos of the few issues that they found (they were trivial enough that they didn't matter too much).

One gotcha you have to be aware of is the time after the survey that you have to accept or reject the boat. The clock starts ticking as soon as the survey / sea trial are complete however it may take a further 7-10 days to get the results of any oil sample analysis back (samples should be taken when the engine is hot).

 

[superheat6k]

A month is loads of time.

For the engines Volvopaul of this parish. I will PM hm on FB for you as he only looks in occasionally.

 

[moretti]

Thanks superheat6k..volvopaul would have been my preferred choice as he comes highly rated on here.

CLB...completion in under two weeks that is impressive.

yeah i can see the oil sample analysis making things a bit tight.

i see on here people have recommended Jim Pritchard and Nick Vass for surveys are they close?

 

[volvopaul]

Thanks superheat6k..volvopaul would have been my preferred choice as he comes highly rated on here.

CLB...completion in under two weeks that is impressive.

yeah i can see the oil sample analysis making things a bit tight.

i see on here people have recommended Jim Pritchard and Nick Vass for surveys are they close?

Pm sent

 

[CLB]

Yes, I made a very cheeky offer, which was accepted on the condition is was quick sale. Didn't want to give the previous owner a chance to change his mind so got the survey done a couple of days later, results the next day, sea trial a few days after that and money transferred at the end of the sea trial. Took the boat away with me!

Didn't get oil samples done, to be honest unless you have info such as age of oil, and how many hours it has been run in the engine for, an oil analysis is probably not worth doing IMHO.

 

[petem]

Didn't get oil samples done, to be honest unless you have info such as age of oil, and how many hours it has been run in the engine for, an oil analysis is probably not worth doing IMHO.

You've obviously never seen some potentially catastrophic oil analysis results! When one engine's oil is alarmingly full of a variety of metals and other nasty chemicals, and the other isn't, you really don't need to know when they were last serviced.

 

[Ian MacAulay]

Nick vass i could not recommend enough... very good and helpful for a survey

 

[sprocker]

Volvo Paul and Nick Vass did my survey last year.

Very thorough indeed, and very helpful with advice. I couldn't recommend them highly enough and will definitely contact them for my next survey.

 

[CLB]

You've obviously never seen some potentially catastrophic oil analysis results! When one engine's oil is alarmingly full of a variety of metals and other nasty chemicals, and the other isn't, you really don't need to know when they were last serviced.

Fair point, but if someone was selling a boat like this, surely they would just change the oil and sell it with fresh oil in the engines. I have had oil analysis done, but they wanted to know lots of background info that I'm not sure you would get from a brokerage boat. Also how do you get the oil out? When I had one sampled they were very specific about collecting the sample. Not from the sump or oil filter, warm engine, drain oil and take sample from mid point of draining. Can you do that on a boat you don't own?

 

[petem]

Fair point, but if someone was selling a boat like this, surely they would just change the oil and sell it with fresh oil in the engines. I have had oil analysis done, but they wanted to know lots of background info that I'm not sure you would get from a brokerage boat. Also how do you get the oil out? When I had one sampled they were very specific about collecting the sample. Not from the sump or oil filter, warm engine, drain oil and take sample from mid point of draining. Can you do that on a boat you don't own?

That assumes that the owner knows there's an issue. It may not be apparent.

The best way / times to get a sample is during the Sea Trial, your engineer will be able to get a decent sample without draining the oil.

Whilst an OK analysis won't guarantee that the engines are good, a very bad one will give a high level of confidence that something is amiss. And as I said earlier, the other engine is a good reference point unless they're both knackered!