CPD
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Nearest miss / accident - what\'s yours ?
I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours !
I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours !
Nearest miss / accident - what's yours ?
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jimi
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Miss Jones is sitting 10 foot from me.
Miss Jones is sitting 10 foot from me.
sarabande
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you optimistic, or just very well endowed ?
you optimistic, or just very well endowed ?
sarabande
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nearly skewering Morning Cloud at one RORC start. The boss at the helm was not amused.
nearly skewering Morning Cloud at one RORC start. The boss at the helm was not amused.
Richard10002
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Never had a real near miss, that I know of, but:
On a trip from Holyhead to Glasson in April 2006, singlehanded on deck at night, I checked all was OK and nipped down below to make a brew, (kettle had boiled). When I came back up, a few minutes later, I saw a fishing boat on the beam which hadnt been there when I went down - I dont know if it was a near miss, or where he came from, but I'm now much more careful when going below and much quicker at getting back on deck.
It's one of those memories which keeps coming back to haunt me....
Never had a real near miss, that I know of, but:
On a trip from Holyhead to Glasson in April 2006, singlehanded on deck at night, I checked all was OK and nipped down below to make a brew, (kettle had boiled). When I came back up, a few minutes later, I saw a fishing boat on the beam which hadnt been there when I went down - I dont know if it was a near miss, or where he came from, but I'm now much more careful when going below and much quicker at getting back on deck.
It's one of those memories which keeps coming back to haunt me....
boatmike
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Are they the only two answers to choose from?
Are they the only two answers to choose from?
boatmike
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Nearly got married again....
Nearly got married again....
sarabande
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My concerns were for the serene and tranquil environment of Jimi's orifice, sorry, office.
My concerns were for the serene and tranquil environment of Jimi's orifice, sorry, office.
Csail
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A car transporter in the Bristol channel middle of the night in F7. They called 'vessel passing Clevedon report your intentions' i asked why? Their reply was 'we are the car carrier behind you, what are your intentions?'
We all looked up and very quickly called S*** 'turning hard stbd' Not really a near miss.
Other nightmare was bay of biscay at night trying to work out what the trawlers were doing on radar.
And another was in speedboat with no nav lights doing 40kts.....trouble was someone else was doing the same! (that was close!)
A car transporter in the Bristol channel middle of the night in F7. They called 'vessel passing Clevedon report your intentions' i asked why? Their reply was 'we are the car carrier behind you, what are your intentions?'
We all looked up and very quickly called S*** 'turning hard stbd' Not really a near miss.
Other nightmare was bay of biscay at night trying to work out what the trawlers were doing on radar.
And another was in speedboat with no nav lights doing 40kts.....trouble was someone else was doing the same! (that was close!)
Sans Bateau
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Crossing the Celtic sea to Cork in 2005, halfway across, F5 - 6 on a broad reach, the boat (Hanse 371) was sailing like a dream on its Monitor wind vane steering.
The guy that was on watch with me had been suffering sea sickness and had spent much of the watch lying asleep in the cockpit. With the boat on self steer, apart from putting a cross on the chart every hour there was little to do.
Towards the end of our watch I was feeling tired, so took refuge under the spray hood to shelter from the rain that was spitting, or was it spray. I was looking up and around every 10mins or so, it was the middle of the Celtic sea so all was clear.
Just before my next 10min 'lookout' I just managed to hear a very very faint boom boom boom, curios, I poped my head up to look, to see the stern of a container ship that had just passed in front of us and I mean only JUST!!!
My heart that was in my mouth by now wanted to stop and if it wasn't beating so hard it surely would have, that ship came out of nowhere!
The lesson learned, it doesnt matter where you are, you cannot take your eyes off the horizon.
Crossing the Celtic sea to Cork in 2005, halfway across, F5 - 6 on a broad reach, the boat (Hanse 371) was sailing like a dream on its Monitor wind vane steering.
The guy that was on watch with me had been suffering sea sickness and had spent much of the watch lying asleep in the cockpit. With the boat on self steer, apart from putting a cross on the chart every hour there was little to do.
Towards the end of our watch I was feeling tired, so took refuge under the spray hood to shelter from the rain that was spitting, or was it spray. I was looking up and around every 10mins or so, it was the middle of the Celtic sea so all was clear.
Just before my next 10min 'lookout' I just managed to hear a very very faint boom boom boom, curios, I poped my head up to look, to see the stern of a container ship that had just passed in front of us and I mean only JUST!!!
My heart that was in my mouth by now wanted to stop and if it wasn't beating so hard it surely would have, that ship came out of nowhere!
The lesson learned, it doesnt matter where you are, you cannot take your eyes off the horizon.
Landale
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OK - most for some reason involve Antares so forgive me if I don't like them, I didn't before however:
1.) In an Irish marina one being erratically driven - missed us by a couple of feet whilke we were moored.
2.) Cardigan Bay whilst putting up the main had to take evasive action as one emerged at speed from a harbour (even saw the skipper walk from the wheel and aft /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif ) presumeably on auto as NOBODY in the cockpit let alone the wheel.
3.) Didn't involve an Antares but twice fishing vessels entering in harbour on the wrong side of the channel at the end of a blind breakwater.
Never had a problem with a sailing vessel however /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
OK - most for some reason involve Antares so forgive me if I don't like them, I didn't before however:
1.) In an Irish marina one being erratically driven - missed us by a couple of feet whilke we were moored.
2.) Cardigan Bay whilst putting up the main had to take evasive action as one emerged at speed from a harbour (even saw the skipper walk from the wheel and aft /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif ) presumeably on auto as NOBODY in the cockpit let alone the wheel.
3.) Didn't involve an Antares but twice fishing vessels entering in harbour on the wrong side of the channel at the end of a blind breakwater.
Never had a problem with a sailing vessel however /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Jonny_H
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Re: Nearest miss / accident - what\'s yours ?
Had a couple ....
1) The nut holding the wheel to the steering shaft was not loctit'ed when we bought the boat - just off Holyhead when delivering her home the wheel came off in my hands! Luckily no wind and a good 5 miles offshore - so enough time to grab a spanner and rectify the situation!
2) Same trip as above ... off Milford Haven at 3am. Saw a large ship coming towards us from our aft quarter - we were passing the Bishops and Clerks so didn't want to go too far outside the channel markers. After calling the ship with no reply the coastguard intervienned - the ship turned his radar on and announced "looking at the radar we will clearly pass at least 50 metres in front of him - what is the problem?" - turned out to be a French Cruise Ship - 50 metres sounds quite close to me - esp at 3am in a tight channel!!
Jonny
Had a couple ....
1) The nut holding the wheel to the steering shaft was not loctit'ed when we bought the boat - just off Holyhead when delivering her home the wheel came off in my hands! Luckily no wind and a good 5 miles offshore - so enough time to grab a spanner and rectify the situation!
2) Same trip as above ... off Milford Haven at 3am. Saw a large ship coming towards us from our aft quarter - we were passing the Bishops and Clerks so didn't want to go too far outside the channel markers. After calling the ship with no reply the coastguard intervienned - the ship turned his radar on and announced "looking at the radar we will clearly pass at least 50 metres in front of him - what is the problem?" - turned out to be a French Cruise Ship - 50 metres sounds quite close to me - esp at 3am in a tight channel!!
Jonny
lagoon
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Re: Nearest miss / accident - what\'s yours ?
Forgive my ignorance ,
what does F5 , F6 & F7 refer to ?
Forgive my ignorance ,
what does F5 , F6 & F7 refer to ?
Phoenix of Hamble
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Re: Nearest miss / accident - what\'s yours ?
Wind speed... Force 5, Force 6 Force 7
Wind speed... Force 5, Force 6 Force 7
graham
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Re: Nearest miss / accident - what\'s yours ?
The Beaufort scale:
For use on land
For use at sea
BEAUFORT SCALE: Specifications and equivalent speeds for use on land
FORCE EQUIVALENT SPEED DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR USE ON LAND
10 m above ground
miles/hour knots
0 0-1 0-1 Calm Calm; smoke rises verticall.
1 1-3 1-3 Light air Direction of wind shown by
smoke drift, but not by wind
vanes.
2 4-7 4-6 Light Breeze Wind felt on face; leaves
rustle; ordinary vanes moved
by wind.
3 8-12 7-10 Gentle Breeze Leaves and small twigs in
constant motion; wind extends
light flag.
4 13-18 11-16 Moderate Breeze Raises dust and loose paper;
small branches are moved.
5 19-24 17-21 Fresh Breeze Small trees in leaf begin to
sway; crested wavelets form on
inland waters.
6 25-31 22-27 Strong Breeze Large branches in motion;
whistling heard in telegraph
wires; umbrellas used with
difficulty.
7 32-38 28-33 Near Gale Whole trees in motion;
inconvenience felt when walking
against the wind.
8 39-46 34-40 Gale Breaks twigs off trees;
generally impedes progress.
9 47-54 41-47 Severe Gale Slight structural damage occurs
(chimney-pots and slates removed).
10 55-63 48-55 Storm Seldom experienced inland; trees
uprooted; considerable structural
damage occurs.
11 64-72 56-63 Violent Storm Very rarely experienced;
accompanied by wide-spread damage.
12 73-83 64-71 Hurricane --
For use on land
For use at sea
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BEAUFORT SCALE: Specifications and equivalent speeds for use at sea
FORCE EQUIVALENT SPEED DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR USE AT SEA
10 m above ground
miles/hour knots
0 0-1 0-1 Calm Sea like a mirror
1 1-3 1-3 Light air Ripples with the appearance of
scales are formed, but without
foam crests.
2 4-7 4-6 Light Breeze Small wavelets, still short,
but more pronounced. Crests
have a glassy appearance and
do not break.
3 8-12 7-10 Gentle Breeze Large wavelets. Crests begin
to break. Foam of glassy
appearance. Perhaps scattered
white horses.
4 13-18 11-16 Moderate Breeze Small waves, becoming larger;
fairly frequent white horses.
5 19-24 17-21 Fresh Breeze Moderate waves, taking a more
pronounced long form; many
white horses are formed.
Chance of some spray.
6 25-31 22-27 Strong Breeze Large waves begin to form; the
white foam crests are more
extensive everywhere.
Probably some spray.
7 32-38 28-33 Near Gale Sea heaps up and white foam
from breaking waves begins to
be blown in streaks along the
direction of the wind.
8 39-46 34-40 Gale Moderately high waves of greater
length; edges of crests begin to
breakinto spindrift. The foam is
blown in well-marked streaks
along the direction of the wind.
9 47-54 41-47 Severe Gale High waves. Dense streaks of
foam along the direction of the
wind. Crests of waves begin to
topple, tumble and roll over.
Spray may affect visibility.
10 55-63 48-55 Storm Very high waves with long over-
hanging crests. The resulting
foam, in great patches, is blown
in dense white streaks along the
direction of the wind. On the
whole the surface of the sea
takes on a white appearance.
The 'tumbling' of the sea becomes
heavy and shock-like. Visibility
affected.
11 64-72 56-63 Violent Storm Exceptionally high waves (small
and medium-size ships might be for
a time lost to view behind the
waves). The sea is completely
covered with long white patches
of foam lying along the direction
of the wind. Everywhere the edges
of the wave crests are blown into
froth. Visibility affected.
12 73-83 64-71 Hurricane The air is filled with foam and
spray. Sea completely white with
driving spray; visibility very
seriously affected.
For use on land
The Beaufort scale:
For use on land
For use at sea
BEAUFORT SCALE: Specifications and equivalent speeds for use on land
FORCE EQUIVALENT SPEED DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR USE ON LAND
10 m above ground
miles/hour knots
0 0-1 0-1 Calm Calm; smoke rises verticall.
1 1-3 1-3 Light air Direction of wind shown by
smoke drift, but not by wind
vanes.
2 4-7 4-6 Light Breeze Wind felt on face; leaves
rustle; ordinary vanes moved
by wind.
3 8-12 7-10 Gentle Breeze Leaves and small twigs in
constant motion; wind extends
light flag.
4 13-18 11-16 Moderate Breeze Raises dust and loose paper;
small branches are moved.
5 19-24 17-21 Fresh Breeze Small trees in leaf begin to
sway; crested wavelets form on
inland waters.
6 25-31 22-27 Strong Breeze Large branches in motion;
whistling heard in telegraph
wires; umbrellas used with
difficulty.
7 32-38 28-33 Near Gale Whole trees in motion;
inconvenience felt when walking
against the wind.
8 39-46 34-40 Gale Breaks twigs off trees;
generally impedes progress.
9 47-54 41-47 Severe Gale Slight structural damage occurs
(chimney-pots and slates removed).
10 55-63 48-55 Storm Seldom experienced inland; trees
uprooted; considerable structural
damage occurs.
11 64-72 56-63 Violent Storm Very rarely experienced;
accompanied by wide-spread damage.
12 73-83 64-71 Hurricane --
For use on land
For use at sea
Top of page
BEAUFORT SCALE: Specifications and equivalent speeds for use at sea
FORCE EQUIVALENT SPEED DESCRIPTION SPECIFICATIONS FOR USE AT SEA
10 m above ground
miles/hour knots
0 0-1 0-1 Calm Sea like a mirror
1 1-3 1-3 Light air Ripples with the appearance of
scales are formed, but without
foam crests.
2 4-7 4-6 Light Breeze Small wavelets, still short,
but more pronounced. Crests
have a glassy appearance and
do not break.
3 8-12 7-10 Gentle Breeze Large wavelets. Crests begin
to break. Foam of glassy
appearance. Perhaps scattered
white horses.
4 13-18 11-16 Moderate Breeze Small waves, becoming larger;
fairly frequent white horses.
5 19-24 17-21 Fresh Breeze Moderate waves, taking a more
pronounced long form; many
white horses are formed.
Chance of some spray.
6 25-31 22-27 Strong Breeze Large waves begin to form; the
white foam crests are more
extensive everywhere.
Probably some spray.
7 32-38 28-33 Near Gale Sea heaps up and white foam
from breaking waves begins to
be blown in streaks along the
direction of the wind.
8 39-46 34-40 Gale Moderately high waves of greater
length; edges of crests begin to
breakinto spindrift. The foam is
blown in well-marked streaks
along the direction of the wind.
9 47-54 41-47 Severe Gale High waves. Dense streaks of
foam along the direction of the
wind. Crests of waves begin to
topple, tumble and roll over.
Spray may affect visibility.
10 55-63 48-55 Storm Very high waves with long over-
hanging crests. The resulting
foam, in great patches, is blown
in dense white streaks along the
direction of the wind. On the
whole the surface of the sea
takes on a white appearance.
The 'tumbling' of the sea becomes
heavy and shock-like. Visibility
affected.
11 64-72 56-63 Violent Storm Exceptionally high waves (small
and medium-size ships might be for
a time lost to view behind the
waves). The sea is completely
covered with long white patches
of foam lying along the direction
of the wind. Everywhere the edges
of the wave crests are blown into
froth. Visibility affected.
12 73-83 64-71 Hurricane The air is filled with foam and
spray. Sea completely white with
driving spray; visibility very
seriously affected.
For use on land
Phoenix of Hamble
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Re: Nearest miss / accident - what\'s yours ?
Just a few weeks ago.... cast off a mooring, and the steering cable fell off the quadrant..... was in the Ore, at a narrow section of the river, with over 3kts of tide... gulp!
Also, in 2006, just off the Belgian coast, doing 6kts, when I saw something in the water, about 50 metres dead ahead of us..... did a rapid course change, and narrowly missed a container floating just 6" out of the water..... phew!
Just a few weeks ago.... cast off a mooring, and the steering cable fell off the quadrant..... was in the Ore, at a narrow section of the river, with over 3kts of tide... gulp!
Also, in 2006, just off the Belgian coast, doing 6kts, when I saw something in the water, about 50 metres dead ahead of us..... did a rapid course change, and narrowly missed a container floating just 6" out of the water..... phew!
Juggler7823
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Two near misses come to mind, the first several years ago on passage from Fishguard to Aberysthwyth. It was foggy when we left and got worse as we approached Aber. We were sailing at about 3kts and my wife was keeping lookout whilst Vera (the steerer) was helming. I went below to check the radar. An echo just outside the guard zone showed a ship approaching at a sharp angle at near range. I shouted to my wife who wanged the helm over and a 40' yellow fishing boat passing JUST behind our stern. I don't think the 2 men in yellow oilies in the cabin even saw us.
The other was this year. It was 12.45 and we had just sailed in thick fog around Pen March in Brittany and were just approaching the Raz de Sein when the fog lifted. A green cutter rigged ketch was motoring really close by on collision course. There was no-one in the cockpit and they did not have a radar reflector up.
I yelled and hooted our fog alarm. Just as I steered away to avoid an imminent collision face face appeared at the window. They were both down below having lunch! Belatedly he came into the cockpit and disengaged the autopilot. He did not seem concerned even though he motored to within 5m of us. I doubt whether Merry**** reads this forum but if you do, Shame on you, you might not enjoy your lunch next time!
Two near misses come to mind, the first several years ago on passage from Fishguard to Aberysthwyth. It was foggy when we left and got worse as we approached Aber. We were sailing at about 3kts and my wife was keeping lookout whilst Vera (the steerer) was helming. I went below to check the radar. An echo just outside the guard zone showed a ship approaching at a sharp angle at near range. I shouted to my wife who wanged the helm over and a 40' yellow fishing boat passing JUST behind our stern. I don't think the 2 men in yellow oilies in the cabin even saw us.
The other was this year. It was 12.45 and we had just sailed in thick fog around Pen March in Brittany and were just approaching the Raz de Sein when the fog lifted. A green cutter rigged ketch was motoring really close by on collision course. There was no-one in the cockpit and they did not have a radar reflector up.
I yelled and hooted our fog alarm. Just as I steered away to avoid an imminent collision face face appeared at the window. They were both down below having lunch! Belatedly he came into the cockpit and disengaged the autopilot. He did not seem concerned even though he motored to within 5m of us. I doubt whether Merry**** reads this forum but if you do, Shame on you, you might not enjoy your lunch next time!
graham
Well-Known Member
Re: Nearest miss / accident - what\'s yours ?
mistaking a South Cardinal buoy for a West Cardinal and running at speed towards the weather side of a sandbank.Only realized that catastrophe was close when I heard/saw the surf close ahead /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif .
Deliberately havent put too much detail in as I had 2 crew asleep below at the time relying on my great skill and experience,they didnt know then or now /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
mistaking a South Cardinal buoy for a West Cardinal and running at speed towards the weather side of a sandbank.Only realized that catastrophe was close when I heard/saw the surf close ahead /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif .
Deliberately havent put too much detail in as I had 2 crew asleep below at the time relying on my great skill and experience,they didnt know then or now /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Boathook
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Just missing some rock awash at mid/half tide to the east of Herm as we motored on a flat sea listening to the forecast with easterly F9/10 being given. Were heading to Alderney so turned towards St Peter Port. And did it just blow 24 hours or so later. 40 knots plus in the shelter of the harbour !!
Just missing some rock awash at mid/half tide to the east of Herm as we motored on a flat sea listening to the forecast with easterly F9/10 being given. Were heading to Alderney so turned towards St Peter Port. And did it just blow 24 hours or so later. 40 knots plus in the shelter of the harbour !!
john_morris_uk
Well-Known Member
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I remember taking some complete novices out of Portsmouth. A F4 from the south gave us free reach along the inner Swashway but I didn't take into account the complete noviceness of the crew. I knew it was a lee shore, but they couldn't see the danger. One managed to accidently tack the boat, leaving a riding turn on a winch and with headsail backed I watched as the sea wall got closer and closer. The O/B wouldn't start and I haven't tied a rolling hitch and got a riding turn off a winch as fast before or since.
The novices had no idea why I was getting a little stressed, and for those who have sailed with me, they will know the world must be ending for me to get visibly stressed. We were very very close to hitting the wall. We might not have died, and I hope we would have scrambled to safety, but we would have lost the boat.
I remember taking some complete novices out of Portsmouth. A F4 from the south gave us free reach along the inner Swashway but I didn't take into account the complete noviceness of the crew. I knew it was a lee shore, but they couldn't see the danger. One managed to accidently tack the boat, leaving a riding turn on a winch and with headsail backed I watched as the sea wall got closer and closer. The O/B wouldn't start and I haven't tied a rolling hitch and got a riding turn off a winch as fast before or since.
The novices had no idea why I was getting a little stressed, and for those who have sailed with me, they will know the world must be ending for me to get visibly stressed. We were very very close to hitting the wall. We might not have died, and I hope we would have scrambled to safety, but we would have lost the boat.