Navionics and the phantom island or: Skippers beware !

[Ido]

Hi all

When I zoomed in the Navionics app around my area, I have found an interesting discovery: 2 islands and a marina that does not exist !
However - It seems to be familiar - I recognised it from a practice map I got from my sailing school.
After a college of mine contacted Navionics they updated the map and the islands are not there anymore - but the small marina is still there..
My concern is simple - How can I trust this app when I sail in a place I don't know at all ? Don't they get their data from official sources ?
Meanwhile I will harry with my fake boat to the fake marina to have some unforgettable moments.

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[charles_reed]

I think he's a footballer.

Anyone who relies entirely on any chart (printed or electronic) needs their sense of self-preservation closely examined - I've found errors in brand-new Admiralty charts.

 

[[70521]]

Did you read the disclamer as you started up the application?

 

[Ido]

"We start where the road ends" ?

 

[ianj99]

Did you read the disclamer as you started up the application?

These disclaimers should not be a 'get out of gaol free' card to allow chart vendors to shrug off responsibility for glaring errors and inaccuracies.

 

[RichardS]

"We start where the road ends" ?

Perhaps the false island is off part of the coast where there are no road ends?

Richard

 

[zambant]

What do Navionics say ?
Thx
John

 

[[70521]]

These disclaimers should not be a 'get out of gaol free' card to allow chart vendors to shrug off responsibility for glaring errors and inaccuracies.

I wonder why the legal profession insists they are placed there?

 

[SailorBill]

I wonder why the legal profession insists they are placed there?

It's another legal argument you have to win (= higher litigation costs) in the event of you trying to sue them. The more defensive arguments they have the less likely anyone will try to sue them.

/cynic


Is it right that they sell a product they try to absolve themselves of liability for? No, of course not. But they do it anyway. And we foolishly buy their products anyway.

/moral compass

 

[ghostlymoron]

It's understandable why they put a disclaimer on their charts. I would too.

 

[[70521]]

Nobody can make a chart that is 100% accurate all of the time.

 

[Ido]

Yes, but this not a matter of a new marina that not been updated to the chart. It is false marina and islands !

 

[SailorBill]

Nobody can make a chart that is 100% accurate all of the time.

Quite right, but to sell a chart and then say you can't use it for navigation suggests the chart is either not fit for purpose and/or not of satisfactory quality...

 

[jwilson]

Where is this imaginary bit of coastline supposed to be?

 

[Ido]

Israel

 

[pvb]

Israel

And do the imaginary places appear on regular Navionic charts, or just on the app?

 

[Ido]

We checked only the Ipad versions.

 

[pvb]

We checked only the Ipad versions.

It's very possible that, in the scramble to meet the growing demand for app versions, mistakes were made. I'm sure they'll sort them out.

 

[macd]

Israel

Ah, a place well-known for having imaginary boundaries...

 

[Ido]

I knew it will come...