davethedog
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Not sure....but we do (un-defaced if that makes any difference)! LOL
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National Trust Mooring Charge Newtown River.
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chubby
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I have found that even when sheltered from the wind, a swell gets into Alum bay and once moved to Totland bay where there is equally plenty of space but seems less swell
dom
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At certain states of the tide - esp near springs - it does get a bit rolly. And it's an anchorage notable for being chocka during the day and empty at night. A beautiful place though with its curious vertical strata:
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~imw/Alum-Bay.htm
Just avoid in a SW above F2-3 and with any SW swell.
alancollins
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We stopped in Newtown a couple of weeks ago and picked up a buoy for a lunch stop. The HM wanted £12.50 for a short stay for our 7.6m boat. When I said it was only £9 the last time we did this he dropped the price to £10. He seemed embarrassed by what he was being asked to charge and advised us to moor in Beaulieu River instead at less than half the price.
Seajet
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That's outrageous !
It cost a touch less than that for a 24' boat last week for a 4 hour stay at Port Solent, now let me think which has invested in fantastic loos, showers, a cinema and a squillion places to eat; and which one offers a short length of chain and a buoy ?
The National Trust is very like the RNLI, with an excellent side and a rather less so financial one - and don't ask me about the time I joined a bunch of graduate NT volunteers for a weekend unless you want to top up your list of naughty words !
It cost a touch less than that for a 24' boat last week for a 4 hour stay at Port Solent, now let me think which has invested in fantastic loos, showers, a cinema and a squillion places to eat; and which one offers a short length of chain and a buoy ?
The National Trust is very like the RNLI, with an excellent side and a rather less so financial one - and don't ask me about the time I joined a bunch of graduate NT volunteers for a weekend unless you want to top up your list of naughty words !
Capt Popeye
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That's outrageous !
It cost a touch less than that for a 24' boat last week for a 4 hour stay at Port Solent, now let me think which has invested in fantastic loos, showers, a cinema and a squillion places to eat; and which one offers a short length of chain and a buoy ?
The National Trust is very like the RNLI, with an excellent side and a rather less so financial one - and don't ask me about the time I joined a bunch of graduate NT volunteers for a weekend unless you want to top up your list of naughty words !
Well a bit of Fred Drift ere, in the news was an item which if I understood it correctly, stated that the NT had a presence at the Giants Causeway that made some charges for peoples wanting to investigate and walk on the causeway, all well and good, but access to the causeway is FREE as of right of way, so the NT cannot impose a charge for access, but they would appear to, if they can ?
XDC
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So a short stay is the same price as an overnight ?
blackbeard
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Last time I picked up a buoy at Newtown I was charged £20 (25-foot boat) (overnight stay).
When anchoring I have often been asked for a donation but the HM seems satisfied with sight of an NT membership card (having paid for that I'm a bit reluctant to part with more dosh if I don't have to).
Depending on conditions it might be possible to anchor outside the harbour west of the entrance channel (watch the depth though).
As an NT member I can use an NT car part free and enter an NT stately home for free, so I don't really understand why I should pay for use of an NT buoy (for the first night at least).
When anchoring I have often been asked for a donation but the HM seems satisfied with sight of an NT membership card (having paid for that I'm a bit reluctant to part with more dosh if I don't have to).
Depending on conditions it might be possible to anchor outside the harbour west of the entrance channel (watch the depth though).
As an NT member I can use an NT car part free and enter an NT stately home for free, so I don't really understand why I should pay for use of an NT buoy (for the first night at least).
BelleSerene
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He should also be satisfied with the two words ‘no thanks’. If he’s not, you should be as satisfied as you’d be with any other persistent begging activity, and politely dismiss him.
solent clown
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if you equate staying on an NT buoy to say staying on an NT campsite overnight, well the bad news is you do not get any discount for being a member. I am not arguing with your point BTW, just saying how they would most likely come back at you of you chose to take up a buoy on the strength of your membership
blackbeard
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Think the same applies here; if you stay on an NT campsite I would consider it reasonable to get some sort of discount, possibly the first night free, if you are an NT member. In other words, I would expect NT to strive to give value for membership money. So far as I can see, something like this would be normal practice for most clubs and societies. Of course NT is entitled to do what it does, but its policy is not entitled to my admiration or respect.
blackbeard
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Always try extra hard to be nice to the HM; the policy isn't his fault, and I suspect he finds it a bit embarrassing. Maybe it helps if I can show that I have paid fair dues to his employer.
JumbleDuck
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Indeed. All the NT have is a visitor centre - anyone can walk down to and on the causeway itself free of charge. However, they do everything they can to make it look as if you need to pay. It's rather ironic that Ian Paisley Jr is complaining about this, because he had to resign from the executive at Stormont some years ago over dubious links to a property developer who was trying to build a visitor centre before the NT got its snout in the trough.
Note: "Coast: The Walks" contains full details of a walk from the Giant's Causeway to Carrick-a-Rede rope bridge. Highly recommended. I wrote it.
BelleSerene
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What would 'fair dues' be, if you’re not a member of the NT and are just going about your navigation in the tidal harbour?
Mollifying the employee of an organisation acting outside its rights is not a means of doing the right thing. I did say ‘politely’ - and if as you suggest he’s embarrassed by his employer’s ‘request’ for a ‘donation’ then he shouldn’t bring much fo a fight. But begging is begging, and no is no. Sorry, ‘no thanks’, as I said.
Roger52
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Stayed at Newtown Thursday and Friday night 34' boat £20 per night.
Lucky Duck
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So not £12.50 then?
That makes it the same prices as the place on the opposite side of the Solent.
That makes it the same prices as the place on the opposite side of the Solent.
XDC
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solent clown
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yes, agreed, that is why after 20 odd years we are no longer members, they simply do not seem to value members, that and the fact that they took membership payment twice last year, and when we asked for it back they said no, we will give you two years membership! Suffice to say we got it all back and left.
prv
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Last I heard, the visitors' buoys in the lower reach of the Beaulieu (closest comparison to Newtown) were £10.
Pete
Lucky Duck
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I think there is only three of those, the rest of them (as you turn the corner towards Gin's Farm where is it a bit more sheltered in SWly winds) are £2/m