NASA Meteoman connecting with existing NASA Clipper Wind

[HeikoWB]

Hello,

i like to buy a the NASA Meteoman (Barograph).
The Nasa company stated that the Meteoman can receive Wind-data by NMEA
My existing NASA Wind instrument has a 5pole plug on the rear, and one of the contacts is the NMEA-out (Sticker on the rear side)

Do i have only to connect the NMEA-out (Clipper Wind) to NMEA-in (Meteoman)
Has anyone connected the Meteoman to Clipper Wind and succeed ?
If so, please give a specification to do this.

Have a nice sailing season next year (or the rest of this year)
At least, apologize my poor english.....

Heiko

 

[MikeCC]

Yes, you can do this. I don't have exact details to hand, but it will work. You can make the connection with DIN plugs. The only disadvantage of not using the Meteoman NMEA mast head unit is losing external temperature.

 

[GHA]

Fro a previous thread..
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...ne-and-some-tech-data-for-the-wind-instrument

Silver = negative supply - all below are reference to this
Red = +5V from display unit
White wire is wind speed data - 1 x 5V 10 millisecond pulse per rev of wind cup
Black = 1 to 4V (approx) depending on angle of wind vane (SIN)
Blue = 1 to 4V (approx) depending on angle of wind vane (COS)
(these two above are 90 degrees out of phase)

As the meteoman is three wire it's hard to see how it would work . Might do though, I have a meteoman as well, would be nice to know what comes down the wires.

 

[pvb]

As the meteoman is three wire it's hard to see how it would work .

The Meteoman has an NMEA input. Some Clipper Wind displays have an NMEA output. It has nothing to do with the wires to the masthead sensor.

 

[GHA]

The Meteoman has an NMEA input. Some Clipper Wind displays have an NMEA output. It has nothing to do with the wires to the masthead sensor.

Good news about the meteoman nmea if that what it puts out.
I recently got a nasa ext cable for a clipper wind which was 5 core, seemed to tally up with these from nasa..
Silver = negative supply - all below are reference to this
Red = +5V from display unit
White wire is wind speed data - 1 x 5V 10 millisecond pulse per rev of wind cup
Black = 1 to 4V (approx) depending on angle of wind vane (SIN)
Blue = 1 to 4V (approx) depending on angle of wind vane (COS)
(these two above are 90 degrees out of phase)


So do they do different sensors?

Edit: From http://www.nasamarine.com/proddetail.php?prod=MeteoMan

NMEA Wind Sensor supplied with mounting brackets and 20 metres of two core screened cable.
NMEA 0183 sentences: Wind speed/direction MWV Temperature XDR

OP's is 5 core - different sensors?

 

[pvb]

I'll try again. The OP has a Meteoman, which has an NMEA input. The OP also has a Clipper Wind instrument, which has an NMEA output. If he connects the NMEA output of the Clipper Wind instrument to the NMEA input of the Meteoman, the Meteoman should show wind speed and direction.

Your 5-core cable goes from the masthead sensor to the display instrument. It doesn't carry NMEA. The NMEA message is generated by the wind instrument.

The Nasa NMEA wind sensor is completely different from the masthead sensor supplied with the Clipper Wind system. The NMEA wind sensor, as its name suggests, outputs NMEA, so it doesn't need a 5-core cable.

 

[GHA]

I really should read more carefully, instead of stopping at the "5-core" and not seeing "nmea out" from the base unit

Good news is if the meteoman outputs nmea then it should be easy to log it in opencpn. So all round.

 

[pvb]

I really should read more carefully, instead of stopping at the "5-core" and not seeing "nmea out" from the base unit

Good news is if the meteoman outputs nmea then it should be easy to log it in opencpn. So all round.

The Meteoman doesn't output NMEA, it only has an NMEA input.

 

[HeikoWB]

Alright,

my Clipper Wind Instrument has a 5pole socket (DIN socket)
The NMEA output is shown on the sticker on the rear.

My Question maybe is too simple....
Can i only plug in a piece of copper wire into the right hole of the socket (NMEA out / NMEA in), and add another ground (GND) wire and it works ?

Heiko

 

[GHA]

The Meteoman doesn't output NMEA, it only has an NMEA input.

Hopefully it should be OK to share the nmea stream from the 3 core nmea masthead sensor. Didn't know it was nmea until now.

 

[HeikoWB]

Hello
pvb is right.

Clipper wind display with 5pole DIN socket ( one of the contact is NME-out)
Meteoman has a 3 pole DIN socket (one of them is NMEA in)

A little bit tricky...: solder a 3pole and a 5pole plug on a cable, can 't solder :-(
Plug in a simple copper wire in the right hole of the socket is much more easy ))

As i now knew is, a second wire Meteoman-GND to Clipper Wind-GNd is required.

 

[MikeFloutier]

I'm just in the process of adding a masthead wind sensor primarily for feeding wind data to my autopilot.

I'd planned to buy a NASA Clipper Wind sensor WITHOUT the display instrument as I understood that it output NMEA0183 and so, if I wanted to display the data, in addition to feeding my autopilot, I could also send the NMEA to my chartplotter; which I know will handle the display.

In planning the installation I started drawing a wiring diagram but realised that the manual didn't show the wiring detail; hence my discovery of this thread and the description of ANALOGUE data wires (i.e. Non-NMEA).

Thinking I'd been misinformed I phoned NASA, who, as predicted, were extremely helpful.

They explained that the WIRED masthead sensors come in two flavours - NMEA and ANALOGUE. I queried whether he was referring to the wireless version BUT he assured me that he was describing two separate WIRED versions.

If you look at the adverts on Google you'll notice that some have a red tail fin on the wind direction sensor and some do not. The RED FIN denotes NMEA0183 whereas the WHITE FIN simply sends an analogue signal that needs the relevant display instrument to convert it to NMEA for use in autopilots etc.

I've now ordered the RED FIN version - no more expensive than the WHITE FIN btw - and will try to remember to feedback the wiring details in due course.

PS I now see that the NMEA version is actually named NASA Clipper Tactical Wind AND has its own separate manual