wl745
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I took this while in Aden about 1962,not being a big ship man I can only say its a general cargo?Any old salts out there who knows!
Name for this ship!
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idpnd
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Long time ago!
timtap
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Union-Castle Line Ship or Clan Line ship re-painted after the merger with Union Castle line ?
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highandry
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I don't know if your photo colours are faded a bit, but when I was in tramps in the 1960's and 70's there was a company called Bibby line whose ships had black hulls and a fairly distinct pinkish colour funnel with a black top. I can't remember if they had that white line just below the bulwarks though. They used to trade to the far East via Suez and would have stopped as we did at Aden for bunkers. They were named after English counties I seem to remember, and names ended in 'shire.'
If the photo colours are faded and that funnel is red, she could have been a Glen Line vessel, all Glen..something. They were black hulls too, can't remember if they had a white band either. But looking at the shape of her house flag on her main mast I'm not sure because Glen line (I think..getting old..
) had a sort of double house flag. A flag with a little pennant immediately above it which was quite easy to see. Glen Line also traded to the far East, I saw a couple in the Hoogli River as well, I seem to remember.
Just as a matter of interest Clan Line had red funnels with a couple of thin black bands round and a black top. They nearly all had big heavy lift jumbo derricks too, abaft the foremast.
If the photo colours are faded and that funnel is red, she could have been a Glen Line vessel, all Glen..something. They were black hulls too, can't remember if they had a white band either. But looking at the shape of her house flag on her main mast I'm not sure because Glen line (I think..getting old..
) had a sort of double house flag. A flag with a little pennant immediately above it which was quite easy to see. Glen Line also traded to the far East, I saw a couple in the Hoogli River as well, I seem to remember. Just as a matter of interest Clan Line had red funnels with a couple of thin black bands round and a black top. They nearly all had big heavy lift jumbo derricks too, abaft the foremast.
Latestarter1
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Mystery shop
For christ sake guys it is a Slow Starvation & Agony ship! Buff funnel black top with white line at sheer strake, Shaw Saville & Albion.
Likely Wiawera, although she seems to have a jumbo derrick which suggests she is a post war sister or had been modified. During Korean war government gave grant if ship had hold of dimensions to carry Centurion tank and jumbo of sufficient capacity. Typical H & W motor ship, with two of those B&W double acting mechanical nightmares.
Wiawera had reputation as a real party ship on NZ coast, bloody boring Bibby line what an insult!
For christ sake guys it is a Slow Starvation & Agony ship! Buff funnel black top with white line at sheer strake, Shaw Saville & Albion.
Likely Wiawera, although she seems to have a jumbo derrick which suggests she is a post war sister or had been modified. During Korean war government gave grant if ship had hold of dimensions to carry Centurion tank and jumbo of sufficient capacity. Typical H & W motor ship, with two of those B&W double acting mechanical nightmares.
Wiawera had reputation as a real party ship on NZ coast, bloody boring Bibby line what an insult!
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highandry
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Told you me eyes are going, I can't even see a jumbo..and her funnel looked pink
I was in the Athenic Shaw Swivel..
I was in the Athenic Shaw Swivel..
fergie_mac66
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http://www.photoship.co.uk/
have a look on here for old ships mind you you will have to spend a liftime looking !
have a look on here for old ships mind you you will have to spend a liftime looking !
Latestarter1
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Shaw Saville ship
My point was bady put.
Ceratinly a SS&A 'W' boat some had jumbos some did not, this one does not. Same applied to telescopic top topmasts. Go search for another W boat picture say Waigrangi or Waimarama.
High and Dry if you served as an officer with SS&A and did not recognise the outline of another company vessel you would have not been awful popular with the old man...
My point was bady put.
Ceratinly a SS&A 'W' boat some had jumbos some did not, this one does not. Same applied to telescopic top topmasts. Go search for another W boat picture say Waigrangi or Waimarama.
High and Dry if you served as an officer with SS&A and did not recognise the outline of another company vessel you would have not been awful popular with the old man...
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highandry
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In the "Athenic" about 1964, young AB, one trip to Kiwi..then Port Line, Blue Star, Royal Mail, Haines, Union Castle etc:...forgotten most of them. One trip-one ship, never a company man..
Was on KGV pool.
Was on KGV pool.
Latestarter1
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Name That Ship
Highandry,
So let me guess you did your lifeboat ticket in the little shed with the davits outside in St Katherines Dock surrounded by all those rusty cranes and derilict warehouses.
People were talking rubbish about the area being redeveloped with pubs and shops, would never happen!
Highandry,
So let me guess you did your lifeboat ticket in the little shed with the davits outside in St Katherines Dock surrounded by all those rusty cranes and derilict warehouses.
People were talking rubbish about the area being redeveloped with pubs and shops, would never happen!
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highandry
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You were watching! Can't remember his name but a short rather stern Scottish Extra Master was the examiner. I understand there is now a yachting organisation in residence and the old dock is packed with leisure craft? I know there's an aeroplane runway where I used to walk down the Royal Albert to see if Federal Steam/NZ Shipping Co: needed AB's
wl745
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Another old one.
Taken form an aircraft some of you will certainly have seen flying round the oggin!This about 1960 taken with a cheap 35mm.I actually sent this yesterday but it has not appeared.
Taken form an aircraft some of you will certainly have seen flying round the oggin!This about 1960 taken with a cheap 35mm.I actually sent this yesterday but it has not appeared.
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highandry
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Another oldie, long since turned into razor blades I bet.
DMR
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Hi chaps, just joined this forum. Interesting discussion about 1962 "Aden ship", and would agree is SSA - not the Waiwera (no top mast and lifeboats too far aft) - not Waipawa ( she didn't have a poop deck) - not Waimarama, she didn't survive to 1962, so must be the Wairangi. Looks right, with right layout for kingposts fr'd of funnel, and right position for lifeboats. She was scrapped in 1963, so was late in her life.
Cheers, DMR
Csail
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Don't often venture into this bit but noticed 'Union Castle Line' My first boat was one of the lifeboats off one of the ships so has anyone got any pictures?
fergie_mac66
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some links to names and pics of all the union castle line here
http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/UnionCastle2.html
ships names can be looked up here
http://www.photoship.co.uk/Browse Ship Galleries/
quite a few links to pics of old cardiff here The one during the coal strike number of ships in the harbour !
http://www.photoship.co.uk/Gallery Links/PHP.htm
