My Sailing Dinghy has got to have an engine, now which one?

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Had a cruising yacht for ..... years, I have recently bought a 14 foot sailing dinghy to play around in. Now, as a very modern sailor and having been used to an inboard engine to get me out of trouble and back home urgently if the need arises, I have realised that in the dinghy I could find myself becalmed with only a set of oars to get me ashore before the pub closes. So I have decided - the dinghy needs an engine!
Now I haven't bought an outboard for many years, certainly not since the "ban the 2 stroke" rules were forced upon us. My old (and hitherto very reliable) Tohatsu 3.5 two stroke is staying on my tender, consequently I have been researching modern four stroke ones between 2.5 and 3.5 hp. At first I was told to buy a Honda 2.3 then told it was awful, noisy and with "that horrid clutch". Then someone said the Suzuki 2.5 is brilliant, lightest in it's class, then I was told there are more warranty returns than enough so avoid like the plague. Next recommendation was the Yamaha 2.5 - fantastic, best built small outboard, then came the advice - steer clear major starting problems, and so on and so on.......
Now I don't expect 100% positive reviews for any piece of machinery but the positives and the negatives seem equally spread for every engine I've looked at. It appears that it doesn't matter what you buy, from listening to others you only have a 50% chance of it being any good. I'd never expect that when buying a car!
Leaving aside personal preferences, from any comments on here about performance and reliability I am going to buy the engine that has twice as many good things said as bad!
Here's hoping not to make too big a £600 mistake!
 
As the owner of one of the new generation Yamaha 4 stroke 2.5hp engines, it has performed faultlessly for the past 4 seasons or so. Starts first pull every time, is not too noisy and I use it on both my yacht tender and on my 12ft traditional sailing dinghy. Yes its heavier than the previous 2 stroke versions but it seems much more reliable & you don't have to mess about with a fuel/oil mixture.

The only downside, which I gather is common to all 4 stroke engines, is that you have to be careful when transporting it and be diligent about which side you lay it down in the boot of the car. However, the diagrams on the engine cowl tell you which ways it can be transported so there is no real excuse in getting it wrong.
 
I have realised that in the dinghy I could find myself becalmed with only a set of oars to get me ashore before the pub closes.

Good excuse to row faster, isn't it? I row the Osprey, and a hefty old horse she is, but there'd be something grotesque about mounting an o/b on her transom. What's your dinghy?

Avoid Honda like the plague.

Why, pray tell?
 
Good excuse to row faster, isn't it? I row the Osprey, and a hefty old horse she is, but there'd be something grotesque about mounting an o/b on her transom. What's your dinghy?



Why, pray tell?

I had the BF2 brand new and nothing but trouble.Oil leaks,bad starting,rubbish clutch,terrible customer service etc. I'm sure others will be along to say the same and a few might have even been lucky (or ignorant). It would be interesting to start a poll.
 
What's wrong with a two stroke? Much less to go wrong, lighter and you can lie them down on either side. It sounds like you already have an ideal one! I'd heartily recommend the tohatsu 3.5, mariner 3.3, mercury 3.3, or the 2.5 versions of the same ( which the observant will point out are all actually the same). And so you'd only need one spares kit for both....

Solentboy also has one for sale in the for-sale section...
 
My 16' Hunter (lifting)keelboat has a pair of oars, and they work jolly well. I have a Mercury 2.5 for her which I bought s/h and never used - there's no bracket, for a start. If I was contemplating buying new for a sailing dinghy, as you are, I'd swallow the price and buy a Torqeedo.
 
you can lie them down on either side.
Do some people close their eyes when putting their outboards down? Sort of like tossing a coin. It would be bad luck to choose to lay it down one way?
You put sheets on winches a certain way. You put the anchor in it's wedges a certain way. You make off on a cleat in a certain way. But outboards. Just however they fall is good.
 
It would be bad luck to choose to lay it down one way?
Yes

But outboards. Just however they fall is good.
No

Four strokes have to lie on one side, or oil goes in places it's not supposed to. That's why there are lugs on one particular side to lie them on.

Just like it doesn't work loading a winch backwards... ;-)
 
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Do you expect to capsize the dinghy with the aforesaid outboard on it? And if so, the right way for your four-stroke? Just asking. I wouldn't bet not to if it was my dinghy.
 
Good point. It would probably be on the back, not packed away. In which case storage is significantly less important.
Quite how useful it would be after a capsize though...
 
My Yamaha 4hp can be laid down any way up. It was a USP when I bought it in 2012 but perhaps others have caught up by now?

It is however not submersible so I would not want it on any sailing dinghy that I was about to helm...

That's why the Torqeedo is the answer.
 
I wouldn't want to go sailing a 14' dingy with a thumping great lead acid battery in it. The best place for the battery would be at the end of the center board, the bottom end.

How would you strap it down? What would happen in a capsise?

Mind you, I wouldn't put an outboard on one either.
 
I wouldn't want to go sailing a 14' dingy with a thumping great lead acid battery in it. The best place for the battery would be at the end of the center board, the bottom end.

How would you strap it down? What would happen in a capsise?

Mind you, I wouldn't put an outboard on one either.

See the video in post #4
There is no thumping great lead acid battery.
 
The Honda 2.3 is a fine engine once it's been run-in. I ignored the criticisms because I wanted the light weight and no need for flushing. When I first fired it up, the clutch was a bit snatchy and the fact that it was not run-in meant that the idling was not too smooth which showed up the clutch issues. I handled it gently, following the running-in instructions to the letter, then took it back to the supplier for its first service and tune-up. Now, it is a very nice engine - starts quite easily even in difficult conditions, idles smoothly after just a couple of minutes warm up, and the clutch is far more smooth. It's still a bit noisy compared with a similar sized water cooled engine, but nowhere near as bad as some like to paint it. I guess that, if you intend to run flat out with the throttle wide open, you might find it unacceptable but pottering round with it on the back of a little 2.5m dinghy, it really isn't bad - and I can lift it off the back of the yacht and mount it on the dinghy single handed without risking injury or dropping it in the water.
 
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