My first drone flight

[TwoHooter]

Thanks for this info. Fwiw I think you are over reading the law in your comment above. YouTube revenue would count only if earning it were your purpose when flying, eg a pro vlogger. Something unsolicited afterwards could never cause a breach of these rules because by definition it could not be "consideration".

I spoke to a chap in the CAA about this a couple of years ago. I had an idea for some videos using a light aircraft and wondered whether it would matter if I put them on Youtube afterwards and earned a bit towards the flying costs. The answer was that the CAA regards any income whether planned in advance or accruing later as crossing the line between recreational flying and aerial work. So I think my notes were accurate.
However so far as I know they haven't prosecuted anyone for getting Youtube advertising revenue from a multirotor video so I agree that from a practical point of view it's probably not worth worrying about.

 

[michaf]

Well done! Go on and practice! Did you use a polirized filter?

 

[Hurricane]

Well done! Go on and practice! Did you use a polirized filter?

Thanks
No, I completely forgot.
When I realised, I was just pleased that it hadn't crashed into the water.
I'm back on the boat in about 3 weeks for the rest of the summer so I will try out a load more then.

I think I need to be more confident - maybe just fly it and not try to film anything.

 

[John100156]

Well, you could have flown over the half-crown side of the marina.....

 

[Hurricane]

Well, you could have flown over the half-crown side of the marina.....

Don't be silly
I haven't learned to go that far yet
And there were too many masts in the way.

 

[John100156]

I reckon there's a new business looming, external boat inspections by drone, I have a weighted fishing net on a catapult waiting just in case.... out again in two weeks

 

[Whitelighter]

I reckon there's a new business looming, external boat inspections by drone, I have a weighted fishing net on a catapult waiting just in case.... out again in two weeks

He hardly ventured down the cheap end of the posh bit

We are out on the 22nd, late though so Bar Seralia wont open until lunchtime on the 23rd.

Ok, 11am

or 10am. But thats the very earliest.

unless someone is around at 9.30......

 

[John100156]

See you at 9 then..... I'm out late 21st, left the Audi at Barcelona airport

 

[Hurricane]

SWMBO and I will be out around then as well.

Hey - you two - guess what?

New toys
A few of us have bought some of these:-

http://www.dinghygo.com/



So if you see a fat git out of control with arms and legs hanging out everywhere - probably best to raise a glass as he goes past.

Seriously though, there is mileage to form a Dinghy Go Club
I will post a new thread on the subject - both on here and on SCMCHAT

 

[Whitelighter]

SWMBO and I will be out around then as well.

Hey - you two - guess what?

New toys
A few of us have bought some of these:-

http://www.dinghygo.com/



So if you see a fat git out of control with arms and legs hanging out everywhere - probably best to raise a glass as he goes past.

Seriously though, there is mileage to form a Dinghy Go Club
I will post a new thread on the subject - both on here and on SCMCHAT

Ooooooh - I've been mulling over something like that.
I've had my eye on a mini-cat as the smaller one goes in one bag. What's the cost of the dinghy go?

 

[Hurricane]

Ooooooh - I've been mulling over something like that.
I've had my eye on a mini-cat as the smaller one goes in one bag. What's the cost of the dinghy go?

I thought you would like that idea.

We managed a deal - I think they came from Holland - maybe SammyB can advise.
It was a couple of weeks ago when the pound/euro was at about 1.25ish
We paid about £2250 each for them - delivered to SC

They have an inflatable floor - I had a go with one.
You can sail it the lazy way - lay in it with your feet over one set of tubes (eg port side) and shoulders against the other side (starboard side)
You don't need to change sides when you tack.
It handled very well - tacked beautifully - very easy to sail.
Good centreboard.
I suppose it is like an Optimist - I've never been able to get into an Oppy though!!
It has a proper transom so can take an outboard - so it is a good "all rounder"

 

[Hurricane]

Starting to get a bit more confident with the drone.
Lots of work still needed to get good video sequences.
We took the boat out to watch the local town fiesta firework display.
Lots of people on board - a few from this forum as well.

So I thought I'd try the drone at night.
It was much easier than I thought it would be - it's lights make easy to see it and which way it is facing.
Here is the result - even though John held his iPhone steady, you can easily see which shots are from the Phantom.



I only flew the drone for about a third of the display.
There were lots of other boats out.
We were the closest in (just outside the swim buoys) and I didn't want to spoil the whole display for the other boats watching.

So, more practice and then I will need some better artistic skills - how to frame and make good video - long way to go but I'm enjoying the drone experience.
Next, I want to do some moving shots.
We are heading up the coast to the Costa Brava this week - I'd like to think we can get some running videos.
Even more confidence needed though.
I'll keep posting my progress for those interested.

 

[Whitelighter]

Excellent Mike - you mentioned you were going to give it a go and that's a good result.

Didn't realise you had lumishores fitted....

 

[CLOUD9]

Thats great Mike. Good luck with the moving footage next week.
Coincidentally, despite getting it delivered in March I flew the Phantom 4 here at home for the first time yesterday. Very impressed indeed with how easy it was to fly. Famous last words? The video of the garden isn't that interesting ..... so will take it out to the boat next week. Hope it survives!
I do have some beginners questions for the movie making experts;
What software should I use to edit the movies and how easy is it to integrate footage from a GoPro and an iPhone with that from the Phantom. Is it a nightmare of differing formats? I have only ever used the GoPro editing software and recall that it wasn't easy to add stuff from the iPhone. (May have just been me not understanding how).
I have iMovie on the Mac but have never used it.
Is it likely to be a problem transporting it out on the plane? I have LiPo bags for the batteries and intend taking the whole kit as hand luggage.
Thanks
Rick

 

[Nigelpickin]

Thats great Mike. Good luck with the moving footage next week.
Coincidentally, despite getting it delivered in March I flew the Phantom 4 here at home for the first time yesterday. Very impressed indeed with how easy it was to fly. Famous last words? The video of the garden isn't that interesting ..... so will take it out to the boat next week. Hope it survives!
I do have some beginners questions for the movie making experts;
What software should I use to edit the movies and how easy is it to integrate footage from a GoPro and an iPhone with that from the Phantom. Is it a nightmare of differing formats? I have only ever used the GoPro editing software and recall that it wasn't easy to add stuff from the iPhone. (May have just been me not understanding how).
I have iMovie on the Mac but have never used it.
Is it likely to be a problem transporting it out on the plane? I have LiPo bags for the batteries and intend taking the whole kit as hand luggage.
Thanks
Rick

Set all cameras to 4K
Use iMovie on Mac or iPad Pro
Drop all movies into a desktop folder called say, footage to do
Copy all files onto one SD card, (check its copied correctly)
Delete the files in the desktop folder
Open iMovie
Import clips from the card as required
When you've finished the film, it is easy, save the film back to the SD card as a FILE version.
If you then want to share to YouTube etc, do it from the card.

This will keep legacy files on your Mac down to a minimum and ensure you have an original on a card, (back up the card if you are worried about cherished film)

Delete projects and clip from Mac as soon as you are able, you'll be amazed how quickly the hard Drive will fill with backup copies of your clips, it's a Mac thing.

Don't forget, if you don't use 4K on your other devices when recording, the entire movie should be rendered at the highest low resolution. This will be the case if you crop or Ken burns any clips. Again it will be same if you film ski mo at say 120fps.

Trust this all makes sense, any questions please ask

 

[CLOUD9]

Thanks Nigel, thats a big help.
Im sure I will have a few questions once I actually do it, but will give it a go and see how I get on.

 

[Hurricane]

For editing - THE WINDOWS WAY

I use Windows Movie Maker - comes supplied with Windows 7
I just dump all the clips that I want to use into a new folder.
Then create a Movie Maker project in that folder.
Edit using Movie Maker
Currently, I'm working to HD (1920 x 1080) because most of my devices won't record in 4K.
That was my reason for only buying a Phantom 3 Advanced and not a Professional.
I didn't want to spend all my time resizing images for quick video clips.
You can spend your life doing this stuff - I just wanted something simple.
I tried big packages like Adobe Premier but it was just taking too long.
Movie Maker does it for me.

 

[Hurricane]

Just an overnight stop in Cambrills
Not really far from SC but I thought is would be good to get round the Delta and away.
Used our free berthing concession so the stop didn't cost.
Just got back from a really great restaurant.

Before going out, I put the drone up for a few "drone selfies".
Here is a very short clip that I took at the same time.
Might not be interesting but I'm still practising.



Bit too windy and there is about a 1m swell so probably not a good time to get some running shots.
Port Vells (right in the middle of Barcelona) tomorrow and for the rest of the weekend so probably no drone flying until next week.

 

[CLOUD9]

For editing - THE WINDOWS WAY
I just dump all the clips that I want to use into a new folder.
Then create a Movie Maker project in that folder.
Edit using Movie Maker

Thanks for the advice Mike. All my gear is apple, but I have successfully put together my first video of go pro and phone camera clips taken on our June trip to Ibiza. I didn't take the Phantom4 but now wish I had.
I've used iMovie and found it really intuitive and easy for a beginner like me. I put some music on the video, but naively didn't realise about copyright so it's not easy to share on YouTube or Facebook. How is this overcome? Do I simply need to find copyright free material?
Out for some drone practice this morning.
Thanks for posting the drone selfies.

 

[Nigelpickin]

Thanks for the advice Mike. All my gear is apple, but I have successfully put together my first video of go pro and phone camera clips taken on our June trip to Ibiza. I didn't take the Phantom4 but now wish I had.
I've used iMovie and found it really intuitive and easy for a beginner like me. I put some music on the video, but naively didn't realise about copyright so it's not easy to share on YouTube or Facebook. How is this overcome? Do I simply need to find copyright free material?
Out for some drone practice this morning.
Thanks for posting the drone selfies.

You tube will replace the music track if you go to the video content manager, not great but OK for a try out.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2902117?hl=en-GB
In future go to
Www.youtube.com/audiolibrary

Here you can check your music choice against the current copyright allowances...

Hope that makes sense....