Multiplait/3Ply, which and which supplier for a rode

[Neeves]

This is not meant to be 'one of those' threads and is hoped to be non-contentious - wishful thinking?

I wonder if there is any perceived difference in the performance of 3 ply or multiplait (8 or 12 strand) nylon, of the same diameter and length when used as part of a mixed anchor rode? I also wonder if there are 'preferred' or better suppliers - or is it (are they) a commodity offering, from reputable manufacturers, similar performance. In fact if you buy a complete rode from, say Jimmy Green, do you actually know, or care, who made the nylon ( and as a real aside - do you know, or care, who made the chain)?

Jonathan

 

[sailorman]

This is not meant to be 'one of those' threads and is hoped to be non-contentious - wishful thinking?

I wonder if there is any perceived difference in the performance of 3 ply or multiplait (8 or 12 strand) nylon, of the same diameter and length when used as part of a mixed anchor rode? I also wonder if there are 'preferred' or better suppliers - or is it (are they) a commodity offering, from reputable manufacturers, similar performance. In fact if you buy a complete rode from, say Jimmy Green, do you actually know, or care, who made the nylon ( and as a real aside - do you know, or care, who made the chain)?

Jonathan

multiplat every time 3 strand nylon goes hard with use.
i bought from ebay last year, chap from Hull, good price too

 

[Twister_Ken]

Multiplait (octoplait in my case) also 'falls' into an anchor locker without wanting to twist and curl, so is more likely to come out untangled.

 

[noelex]

As others have said octoplait handles much better than 3 ply, particularly used rope.
Their are differences in strength, stretch etc, but these are very minor.

I have just recieved a big order from Jimmy Green and the line is noticeably better made than the small local Greek chandleries that i have purchased.

The local chandleries sell mainly mainly to the fishermen on price so I am comparing what is probably the cheapest with the best. The larger chandleries close to the main population centres do sell good quality products. It does, however, show there are significant differences in quality available for purchase.

BTW I was searching for some Dyneema yesterday to try some soft shackles, but they had never even heard of it as a yacht rope (only fishing line)

 

[Neeves]

Hi Noelex,

Dyneema is big in fishing as its strong, so if you hook anything it will not get away (or at least the line will not break). The other reason is that commercial fishing has moved on, they can now fish very deep waters, basically automatically. Because there is no elasticity they can now fish at 400m and the reel detect a slight change in tension, and the change (in tension) means a fish - and it can automatically reel in. The reels are hydraulic and electronic.

Used out here to fish blue eyed cod on the sea mounts 200nm off the east coast.

It depends on the application but for soft shackles, try nylon webbing - it has some give, but you could also try Dyneema webbing (rather than cordage) for anchor application. Given your peripatetic lifestyle your big issue will be sitting still long enough to get the delivery and finding someone to deliver small pieces (if all you want to do is make soft shackles). We have been using nylon webbing soft shackles for some of our blocks, screachers and snubbers, for about 12 months. Cheaper than stainless.

Jonathan

 

[cryan]

Dyneema has revolutionised the commercial shipping world. I used to work on conventional tugs (twin screw, towing hooks instead of winches) Dyneema made our lives so much safer and easier. First of all for the same strength as polyprop or steel wire it is considerably thinner in diameter. It floats and is super light meaning we could haul it in easily by hand. Our work also included a lot of lassoing of bits and cleats when we worked in tight dock confines and the weight saving made this much easier. However the number one benefit by far was that Dyneema has next to no stretch which means that when it does part it just falls straight down as opposed to snapping back. This makes it much safer when working around it. I have been stood beside a parting Dyneema line and it it just whipped with enough force to give me a slap where as polyprop would have removed my head and wire would have chopped me into pieces. The only downside is cost as it is bloody expensive. We used to buy our stuff from Mainbrace Marine in Rosyth. I'm pretty sure he sells to the leisure boater too.

Ah- just seen your in Ausy. I believe Mainbrace is currently supplying the Ausy Navy so he might send some stuff to you.