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Just a simple request for 2020
When one berths to a long pontoon would one move up to the boat already on the pontoon .
Please do not leave half a boat's length in front. half a boat's length behind thus depriving a boat space to another boat arriving. You only need 3-4 feet between you & the next boat
It is not rocket science & just polite to park sensibly. Even if there is lots of space one can still move up.
Just because you do it when parking your car in the high street (we know you cannot drive;))does not mean you have to do it on the pontoon
Alternatively, I am going to raft up & trample all over your decks.
Sorry, rant over.
 
Daydream believer said:
Just a simple request for 2020
When one berths to a long pontoon would one move up to the boat already on the pontoon .
Please do not leave half a boat's length in front. half a boat's length behind thus depriving a boat space to another boat arriving. You only need 3-4 feet between you & the next boat
It is not rocket science & just polite to park sensibly. Even if there is lots of space one can still move up.
Just because you do it when parking your car in the high street (we know you cannot drive;))does not mean you have to do it on the pontoon
Alternatively, I am going to raft up & trample all over your decks.
Sorry, rant over.
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And if the boat ahead or astern of you leaves, do you move up ?
 
I offered to write a set of 'pontoon rules' for the soon to be extended MYC club pontoon.

The OP has hit the nail on the head, very common scenario - first boat arrives and stops 15ft from end of pontoon, next boat arrives and leaves a 20ft gap between boats and about 15 ft left behind them. Pontoon now 'full' even though with sensible berthing you'd easily fit another 40ft boat on it.

The cleats these boats are using will usually have about 100 ft of spare warp wrapped around them meaning if you do squeeze in you'll not find much to tie up to.

Any suggestions for text for the pontoon rules appreciated. Struggling so far without upsetting anyone!
 
Most if not all the Governments docks here, have a rail rather than cleats. It’s no big deal to move up or down as required,
Rafting is required on most.
Or just my sense of humour. I have been known to do a stern landing when the space between was a little short.
 
A related suggestion:
When tying your dinghy to a pontoon, leave it on a long painter so that later arrivals can push it aside and reach the pontoon.
If I was feeling more literate, I would describe how to attach a painter to a cleat using a loop so that others can also attach and each can detach without untying anything else.
Who are these folk who put 17 turns on a cleat? I've never met one but I seem to follow them round the coast!

Derek
 
It's selfish, yes. Particularly if you're there for any length of time.

OTOH, if wind & tide are pushing you onto the pontoon, a bit of space makes the difference between getting out without incident and having to exchange insurance details. Easy enough if you've got twin engines and/or a bow thruster, but spare a thought for the long keeler with a tiny engine and an egg whisk for a prop.
 
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OTOH, if wind & tide are pushing you onto the pontoon, a bit of space makes the difference between getting out without incident and having to exchange insurance details.
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Or bigger space to build more momentum for a bigger bash?
 
Stemar said:
It's selfish, yes. Particularly if you're there for any length of time.

OTOH, if wind & tide are pushing you onto the pontoon, a bit of space makes the difference between getting out without incident and having to exchange insurance details. Easy enough if you've got twin engines and/or a bow thruster, but spare a thought for the long keeler with a tiny engine and an egg whisk for a prop.
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I sail single handed & i usually make a point of walking round the nearby boats if there is any tight berths ( St peter Port is a typical one if right in ) & letting them know that I am about to go & would they just get ready to fend off, if I make a hash. In Bouogne I recently had a problem when a large boat parked right opposite me making reversing out difficult. The crew walked round to my side , helped with my lines etc & it all went off without a hitch. If things are really difficult one can often ask the harbour master if one is somewhere like Ostend.
Fortunately I do not usually have problems . It is just a case of thinking it through.
 
Poignard said:
And if the boat ahead or astern of you leaves, do you move up ?
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But then there is a boats length to get another in. Ok it may be a larger one arriving, but it usually plays out Ok, as at least a berth has been left for someone.
But yes, I do often move up if staying a while & see the advantage to others. Ie I do it in Ostend regularly & might move 4-5 times in a month's stay
 
Daydream believer said:
I sail single handed & i usually make a point of walking round the nearby boats if there is any tight berths ( St peter Port is a typical one if right in ) & letting them know that I am about to go & would they just get ready to fend off, if I make a hash. In Bouogne I recently had a problem when a large boat parked right opposite me making reversing out difficult. The crew walked round to my side , helped with my lines etc & it all went off without a hitch. If things are really difficult one can often ask the harbour master if one is somewhere like Ostend.
Fortunately I do not usually have problems . It is just a case of thinking it through.
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I always think that helping other boats in around the moorings is a big part of the fun of being in harbour. And you know that sometime it will be you needing those extra hands to get you out of trouble.
 
Resolution said:
I always think that helping other boats in around the moorings is a big part of the fun of being in harbour. And you know that sometime it will be you needing those extra hands to get you out of trouble.
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+1.

One of the nice things about my club is that there's always someone who'll take a line or give you a shove when you need it, but the tide flows across the pontoon and can be strong enough to pin you on. If the wind's being uncooperative as well, you're going nowhere.
 
cpedw said:
A related suggestion:
When tying your dinghy to a pontoon, leave it on a long painter so that later arrivals can push it aside and reach the pontoon.
If I was feeling more literate, I would describe how to attach a painter to a cleat using a loop so that others can also attach and each can detach without untying anything else.


Derek
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Salcombe is the worst I've seen for short painters, I had to scramble over a couple of dinghies once.
 
I agree with all the above, but fortunately the thoughtless skippers are in the minority. My boat is not well set up for springing off due to its widish stern and saildrive, making a forwards exit hazardous and stern ways preferable.

There are of course multiple ways of behaving badly on pontoons. Leaving a bird's nest of line on a shared cleat is one, and trapping another boat's line under your later line another. With stern posts a self-tightening slip knot will achieve the same effect. A regular grouse on shared fingers is allowing teenagers to jump off the deck onto the finger, giving the adjacent boat a disturbing snatch through its lines. In fact, it is the widespread use of box moorings that is one of the attractions of Baltic sailing, where good manners are the norm and the occasional prat doesn't disturb you.
 
johnalison said:
. In fact, it is the widespread use of box moorings that is one of the attractions of Baltic sailing, where good manners are the norm and the occasional prat doesn't disturb you.
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The only trouble with box moorings, is that any visitor, not used to them, seem to think that any adjoining boat is positioned there as a fender for their benefit. As they arrived between 2 posts they do not have to put any fenders out once past them
 
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