Motoring Cones
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snowleopard
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Or how about a remotely-controlled inverted umbrella?
For years someone advertised a cone in YM. It was left hoisted but folded and could be extended remotely by pulling on a string. I wonder if they ever sold one.
andygc
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l'escargot
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I could see another thread here: the difference between motoring with the main sail up in no wind because you can't be arsed to drop it and motorsailing as in using both the engine and the sails to propel the boat at the same time. The first is easier to spot than the second.
dunedin
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I don't understand why peeps put their main sail up when there is a big high pressure around and no wind
It is very rare to be completely calm (in which case we do keep sail down and covers on). However most light wind days the wind comes and goes, so we hoist sail with the first slightest breeze, and sail when ever possible. Quite often have motored just 100yds to skip between patches of windy.
Keeping mainsheet very tight avoids sail flapping when motoring between wind patches.
Each to their own
alant
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Not sure slated & slatting are the same term.
Anyway, its not under S in your dictionary http://southseas.nla.gov.au/refs/falc/1111.html
Perhaps someone could indicate where it comes from.
Modulation
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No it doesn't. Try motorsailing in Belgian or Dutch waters and see what their marine think of you.
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Its in the definition of aback which is similar with the earlier description in the thread. Any apparent variance in the spelling and precise definition would be normal with such an archaic word.
The word "slate" has a few archaic meanings to do with criticism, untidy, predict the future. With a fair amount of licence and imagination one could maybe see how such an old word could be associated with sails going aback.
Apparently a "slatted" woman is an old, slang phrase for dirty, shoddy woman of ill repute who has sex with may partners, sometimes for money.
alant
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I think I know her!
Yes I know it was in the definition of aback, but I have searched all the google hits on aback & failed to find anything with slated, slatted or slatting.
So where/when did it come into so called sailing parlance, or is it a colloquial phrase?
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Nostrodamus
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I think I know her!
Yes I know it was in the definition of aback, but I have searched all the google hits on aback & failed to find anything with slated, slatted or slatting.
So where/when did it come into so called sailing parlance, or is it a colloquial phrase?
Could it be that "Slut" is also derived from that. I would be quiet happy to have a few on my boat!
laika
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Is it "correct" to base your actions on your assumptions regarding the navigational status of a vessel (ie sail/power/fishing/restricted/NUC), or the status it is claiming via lights or day shapes?
For the purpose of this question, "correct" means "intended by the IMO" or "recommended by the MCA" rather than "the right thing to do". "What everyone does and therefore expects you to do" would be a consideration for the latter definition, but not necessarily the former.
The IRPCS wording talks about a vessel's status not what it's showing, but it also says that vessels shall show the appropriate lights/shapes. As people have posted, there are times when you might not be able to see shapes even if displayed.
This is a fairly academic question: Pragmatism is probably more important to safety than pedantry. Most people motoring with main pinned centrally, no genoa and no cone expect to be treated as a power driven vessel. But what is "officially" correct? I've never been wholly clear on this...
For the purpose of this question, "correct" means "intended by the IMO" or "recommended by the MCA" rather than "the right thing to do". "What everyone does and therefore expects you to do" would be a consideration for the latter definition, but not necessarily the former.
The IRPCS wording talks about a vessel's status not what it's showing, but it also says that vessels shall show the appropriate lights/shapes. As people have posted, there are times when you might not be able to see shapes even if displayed.
This is a fairly academic question: Pragmatism is probably more important to safety than pedantry. Most people motoring with main pinned centrally, no genoa and no cone expect to be treated as a power driven vessel. But what is "officially" correct? I've never been wholly clear on this...
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It would be a mistake to over analyse this as the the requirement to show day shapes is clear. The IRPCS allow for "pragmatism". Some quotes from the IRPCS: -
Jamesuk
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Wow is this thread still going!!!??
A Motoring Cone: not worth the plastic it takes to make them!!
A Motoring Cone: not worth the plastic it takes to make them!!
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I used to return from the finish line to the marina under mainsail alone after a race. The reason for sailing under main alone was to preserve the condition of the foresail and that the speed under main was fast enough.
It could take an hour to get back to the marina; time to tidy up, clean up and have a beer. In this case it would be wrong to assume I was motoring just because I had main only up.
I would suggest that this is not uncommon amongst the racing fraternity. Assumption, the mother of all f*&k ups.
It could take an hour to get back to the marina; time to tidy up, clean up and have a beer. In this case it would be wrong to assume I was motoring just because I had main only up.
I would suggest that this is not uncommon amongst the racing fraternity. Assumption, the mother of all f*&k ups.
Tidewaiter2
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One's company, two+ is an orgy!
I suspect from 'slat/slut' came 'slattern' or 'sluttern'; it may have reversed into sailing from the female usage
I suspect from 'slat/slut' came 'slattern' or 'sluttern'; it may have reversed into sailing from the female usage
Ehecatl
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Motor Cones
Four days sailing out of Plymouth, lots of traffic, very little wind, of those obviously motoring only 2 with motor cones out of more than 50
Four days sailing out of Plymouth, lots of traffic, very little wind, of those obviously motoring only 2 with motor cones out of more than 50
Nostrodamus
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Do you think there should be a "national motoring cone day?"
Salty John
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My goodness, 8 pages of motoring cones!
I know an opportunity when I see one - I'm already working on a motoring cone hologram. A flick of a switch and you're legal. Holographic anchoring balls will be next.
I know an opportunity when I see one - I'm already working on a motoring cone hologram. A flick of a switch and you're legal. Holographic anchoring balls will be next.
Tidewaiter2
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Thats a lot of....
...Holographic balls, our John, should we move tjhis thread to the Lounge
...Holographic balls, our John, should we move tjhis thread to the Lounge
jtwebb
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I do use a motoring cone which is rigged on a line back to the cockpit. It was to avoid being 'done' by the Dutch and Belgians! It is partly hidden if all sails are up but it sort of satisfies the regulations!