Motor boats and sail boats

Hardmy said:
Comrade sailors in the med don't seem to bother about wash down there. I notice that this discussion about wash, is only to be found in England. Why?
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Yup thats certainly true. We all seem to rub along together just fine in the Med and in places its just as manic as the Solent. I think jrudge has got it right. The British weather makes British yotties crotchety
 
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Yup thats certainly true. We all seem to rub along together just fine in the Med and in places its just as manic as the Solent. I think jrudge has got it right. The British weather makes British yotties crotchety
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Yup - I get alarmed at Med mobos charging straight at me as I don't know whether they are looking out and will veer at the last moment (so far they all have so I'm still here), but wake - meh. Nice to see a wave sometimes.
 
Hardmy said:
Comrade sailors in the med don't seem to bother about wash down there. I notice that this discussion about wash, is only to be found in England. Why?
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Really? The Italian for motor boat is Motorscafo, and the Italian for disgusting is skifo, so guess what Italian sailors call motorboats? ?
 
When leaving the Hamble on Sunday morning there was 2 identical racing yachts together tacking across infont of me going at great speed, they were going right to the side in front of me and at a speed that by the time I could pass one the other back there again making sure I could not pass, when in confined space why do yachts try so hard to prevent you getting past.
 
aquapower said:
When leaving the Hamble on Sunday morning there was 2 identical racing yachts together tacking across infont of me going at great speed, they were going right to the side in front of me and at a speed that by the time I could pass one the other back there again making sure I could not pass, when in confined space why do yachts try so hard to prevent you getting past.
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1. Because they can

2. As your boat doesn't have a mast, you are not really a proper sailor so have no right to be on their water anyway.
 
No need to get your nickers in a twist this was only a friendly request by a fellow sea user. I was referring to open sea sailing not the Solent it is long since I sailed there thankfully. I was motoring back to St Helier from The Minquires at 6 Kts and was passed on either side by motor boats going quite fast I waved as I usually do and got a "V" sign back. It would not have made more than one minute to their arrival time at St Helier to have given me more room. But there you go, the response from some says it all, sorry to have waisted your precious time.
Kind regards Mike
 
lionelz said:
Whilst I feel for you on what happened, are you sure half a mile! Why not just ban us from the solent, I always try to avoid sail boats and always try to go to rear, I tell you what, I will give half a mile when I see sailboats with their motoring cones up when they are under motor. Sorry for snarled response but that is a bit OTT on request
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Sorry I was not think that boats in such a crowded area would be travelling so fast and I am not used to sailing in the Solent
 
Pagetslady said:
Sorry I was not think that boats in such a crowded area would be travelling so fast and I am not used to sailing in the Solent
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They most definitely do however from your latest post these Moboers sound like apair buffoons who don't warrant your time of day and would not heed your request anyway
 
CLB said:
Was it really 40+ knots though? Raggie perception of speed is often grossly exaggerated. Not many production motorboats can achieve 40 knots. Proper race boats can, but motorboats are unlikley to cruise at much more than 25 with a top seed of around 30. Rouge waves are also unlikley to veer a motorboat widely and uncontrollably off course. I've done many thousands of hours in all kinds of motorboats, including race boats, and it has never happened to me. I would be more concerned about mech failure which again is unlikely, but could happen. Unfortunately, in places like the Solent (I know you did not say you were the, but taking a guess) it is often difficult to give the kind of room being asked for in this thread. At the weekend I passed within the sort of distances you mention at about 20 knots, purely because there were so many boats in the Solent the only other option was to slow right down. This would have actually made it a bit harder to pick my way through the sailies, as some of them were doing a good turn of speed, and I would have also missed the tide and had to wait until after midnight to get back on my berth.
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Just got back to this thread. I'm a mobo owner as well (Merry Fisher 645) and have driven big engined ribs at 50+knots myself. I was originally going to say 50+knots, but changed it to 40 to avoid any potential for exaggeration. They were definitely going race boat speeds and with hulls completely out of the water a lot of the time.

I rarely see this kind of behaviour from mobos (big wake issues are much more frequent), but when it does happen it is quite frightening.
 
Sorry folks I should have known better than to have posted this friendly request on this forum, what it is that makes some of you so unfriendly I have no Idea fortunately we rarely see you off shore.
Mike
 
Sailorsam101 said:
I give all boats as much space as I can but....no wash from any boat should be unexpected. Do you not have people looking behind...do people not keep a good look out what is happening all around them.

While wash can create problems on a yacht no crew should be taken by surprise if they are using their eyes or somebody is watching out for them.

I've been an instructor on sail for many years and the amount times that I observe people sailing who simply do not ever look behind them to see what is happening still does shock me.

Oh and I'm not by any means saying some power boat drives are not the bad guys here...they are and I see it often as well.

But come on people...look around you and take responsibility for what will happen to your boat on the sea and please don't blame others.

Remember it's always the skippers fault no matter what.
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My mistake I should have said please when in open sea could high speed vessels give a slow boat be it sailing or motor boat a wide clearance a possible, it seems that in my case on Saturday one boat in particular came very much too close when there was miles of open sea, and no rush to get into the marina before the gates close because I was going to make it with time to spare at 6kts, I realise now it was a stupid request.
Mike
 
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How predictable. Its summer and the usual hardy perennial thread from a pissed off yottie pontificating about motorboat wakes. As sure as night following day.

I would like to ask the OP whether he would complain about his teenager nearly being lost overboard as a result of the wash from high speed ferries, pilot boats, harbourmasters' launches and myriad other commercial traffic than produces a far greater wash than any private motor boat? Probably not, I would hazard a guess.
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When in open water it is rare that such happens but again I apologise for posting on your forum, it was a polite request and was not meant to get your hackles up.
Mike
 
Hi Mike,

Your request was entirely reasonable in my view and given the crowded nature of the Solent you may have reduced your suggested limit for passing boats accordingly.

Both sailors and motor boaters have their weaknesses, I have witnessed yachts not keeping an eye out whilst transiting the Hamble. I have also nearly been rammed by a motorboat coming out of a marina who didn't look before turning.

One trend that is rapidly growing is to fit an action cam looking forward so that any perceived transgressions by other boats is recorded.

In the instance when I was nearly rammed I was recording.

I waved my arms up in exasperation at the boat and was about to receive a torrent of abuse judging by his body language.

As soon as he saw the action cam he thought better of it and just muttered.....

Had he launched his broadside you would have no doubt seen the video here and in other forums!

Moral of the story is to behave well at all times when afloat.....
 
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