Most seaworthy 30' boat?

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I have the opportunity of a very reasonable birth. But the boat can't be longer than 30' 5".
I don't have time for two boats in my life so want to get the decision right. Or try my best. Don't want my dreams of voyages to be restricted.
Nich 31 looks good but may be a slug. I want a boat that is nice to sail.
Not a twister or a vancouver 27/274, did I say it must have a double berth?
Rustler 31 out of my price band for a good one. Up to 25k ish.
Halmatic/Barbican maybe.


Looks like I am fixated on long keel but I am not and nor by skegs.

All input apprectiated.
 
shaunksb said:
Its 31’ and the OP has said max 30.5’.

This could be a long thread...

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Yes. Most modern "racer/cruisers" have as much luxury below decks as a roadmender's shed. (see: Who said this about modern yach........ in the other place)

I think the chances of a double bunk in that Whitbread 30 are pretty slim, you might get a couple of pipe cots if lucky.

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Good link to the Liz 30. Westerly Hmmm. Fulmar, longbow too long then you are down to 28 footers or am I wrong?
 
IanCC said:
Looks a bit of a handful for me amd my Mrs. Looks like I should add good stowage to the list.
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I know - a bit tongue in cheek but it’s was the phrase, “seaworthy” as that boat will cope with and often deal with weather that the average old cruised wouldn’t. Unless you are going to the Southern ocean or ice breaking then almost every boat can cope with gales and ocean crossings if well maintained so to me it’s more about the boat you see in your minds eye as the dream boat, than seaworthiness as a criteria. We went down the “comfortable to live on at anchor” route so don’t own a pretty boat but do own a comfortable and capable one. Others will sacrifice speed and accommodation for an occasional experience of more comfortable beating but a continuous experience of being lovely to look at. Of course we could beat nearly as comfortably too if we slowed down to their sort of speed.
 
Maybe, good suggestion. Have never found them cute but I have never been on one. It goes on the list. Thank you.
 
I do dream of cruising the southern Greenland fjords as part of a North Atlantic circuit. So in my minds eye is a boat we can hunker down in and feel relatively safe, warm and dry ish. But not necessarily too heavy.
 
Yes and unsinkable supposedly. Not been on one yet. But worry about stowage. Can't help feeling there is no such thing as a free lunch. It has so many good points, it sounds too good to be true.
 
IanCC said:
Looks a bit of a handful for me amd my Mrs. Looks like I should add good stowage to the list.
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If you cannot handle a Moody 31 then perhaps you should look at your whole requirements again. A Moody 31 ( & i am not particularly a Fan of Moody) is a sensible family yacht with above average performance. If you want a faster yacht then you need a more modern one & your price goes up. Plus you need to be able to handle it. Moody owners will tell you that it is not the yacht that cannot handle heavy weather but the crew. From what Moody owners tell me they are boats that do look after their crew in relative comfort.
I would also suggest that some of the slower older models should be side stepped, if one can up their price range a bit, the gains in space, comfort & performance are greater & will be well appreciated. Do not let someone tell you that a knot makes no difference . It does when the going gets tough or the winds are light.

As for stowage- what do you & your wife expect to take on this new yacht? if you start filling it with junk it will be just another shed. People go on about stowage but I suggest that you are not going far & anyway a couple can easily spend 4-5 months on a Moody 31 in relative comfort. I have met several couples on my Northern France cruises who are doing just that. However, try that in some older designs & things get more difficult. What you need is room to move about, lounge comfortably. Look for a boat where you can get past your fellow crew without sticking your bum in their face as you go past the saloon table. That is a good one for starters. Gets a bit annoying after the tenth time in the morning.
 
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