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Just out of interest, another thing that would need clarification is whether a standard rule would be defined on the Mooring Fees ie whether only the bankside boat should pay?
I know a few boatowners that might be tempted to get somewhere late to moor on the outside for free...
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I deny everything and would like several similar denials to be taken into consideration M'Lud.
When rafted up above Henley last season we were hit by a rower,the commander in chief of this particular single scull,took the trouble on his way back down river ,to lambast us in an accent that can only be aquired via large amounts of money, for double banking and told us that without doubt that rafting up was not allowed on his bit of river........ sigh.
We engaged in a little light social intercourse ,before informing him that he really ought to moan at someone who gave a ????
Anyway just to show that B1 practices what he preaches.
Is it not commonplace for those boats on the outside of the raft to put bow and stern lines out to the riverbank? Looking at this picture I would imagine that if there were a decent current up the chuff of these boats that poor old Sarah on the inside will have her cleats pulled our of the deck or the rings pulled out of the bankside? Certainly on the coast when rafted it is expected that outside boats do take lines ashore to relieve loads on the alongside boats deck equipment and lines.
rob
ps - why do you have dinghy's on the river? surely you're always alongside? Or do you anchor in the river mid-stream?
This was on the Thames in mid-summer with a benign river and no current at all worth speaking of. However, I seem to recall that we did have a head line across to the bank. Shortly after that pic was taken a boat behind us left so I was able to drop back and moor bankside anyway !
We had 2 boats rafted next to us at Cookham over the bank holiday and were just charged for the one boat, so muggins here had to stump up the exorbitant fiver-Oudragoeus! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I have never been brave enough to ask someone if I can moor alongside them, other than for a short stop, as for some reason it just does not seem to be the done thing on the river.
The couple of times we have rafted it was, as others have said, a good way to get chatting. My daughter also thinks it is great fun, especially if we are the outside boat and have to walk across the other to get to the bank. However my wife for some reason hates it with a passion. She says she feels penned in, but this seems totally irrational to me. If it was not for this I would have quite happily displayed the moor alongside stickers we were all given a couple of years ago.
Interestingly the one time I did ask another boater if we could stop alongside below Goring lock so I could dump some rubbish and go the the cash machine he was quite happy for me to do so, but I could hear a few comments from "her below" so perhaps it is a female thing that I just don't understand (one of many).
There are some popular spots where rafting should be compulsory, but in the more remote spots where people like the peace of a secluded mooring it would be much more difficult to expect this to happen as a matter of course. How many of us would welcome a party of boozed up blokes on a hire boat rafting alongside us?
"ps - why do you have dinghy's on the river? surely you're always alongside? Or do you anchor in the river mid-stream?"
Pssssst!........Don't ask awkward questions, they don't like it you know! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif........Acshully, they probably dislike awkward questions more than they dislike those nasty narrow boats....
On second thoughts.....probably not! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
It is vital on the upper Thames to have a rubber dinghy hangin orf the back,the more saggy the better
This is designed to give the impression that you are actually an olde sea dog who is more familiar with scuzzy fishing ports in exposed N Sea areas than a lightweight wimp who main worry is that they will be sold out of "Rocket" or "Balsamic "(again) when you finally moor outside Tescos in Reading after that dam tin slug has finally departed leaving you only a worryingly inadequate 25yds of bank to moor up in
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"why do you have dinghy's on the river?"
It is vital on the upper Thames to have a rubber dinghy hangin orf the back,the more saggy the better
This is designed to give the impression that you are actually an olde sea dog who is more familiar with scuzzy fishing ports in exposed N Sea areas than a lightweight wimp who main worry is that they will be sold out of "Rocket" or "Balsamic "(again) when you finally moor outside Tescos in Reading after that dam tin slug has finally departed leaving you only a worryingly inadequate 25yds of bank to moor up in
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/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.......You are a proper "Old Git"....almost as bad as me!.........Do any of them have radar?.....Chart plotters?..... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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ps - why do you have dinghy's on the river? surely you're always alongside? Or do you anchor in the river mid-stream?
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Its for playing in of course, exploring backwaters, sneeking up on wildlife, amusing the kids, what else are boats for /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Have a dinghy for the kids to play in, chosen solid rather than inflatable so that if they bash into the bank/narrowboats/skiffs not much damage will occur to it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
But yes, anchor out quite frequently as well. You should try it some time. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Dont have a radar or chartplotter but do have great memories from last 20years trips to Holland, Belgium and France. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
The dinghy is a vital weapon in the discipline war.
"If you are good and tidy your cabin you can go an use the tender for a bit after lunch"
as well as a device for getting to the other side of the river when you are happily moored on the Brocas so they can run wild in the long grass, then need a swim because no boat carries enoug watre to get them clean again! Or just for ice creams
I think we have had 4 boats rafted at the Trad but this could be the narrow ones. As we always put the less able crews boats alongside, it can be a problem for them when the late night revellers return from the beer tent.
The 3rd boat puts head and stern ropes ashore to easy the pressure on the bankside boat.
We often raft out more than 3 at boat festivals, but then these are in harbours and so don't have passing traffic.
Boaters should try Six Haven on opposite bank to the train station in Amsterdam, Holland. They fill the finger moorings and pack boats stern first into the space between the pontoons. So theres no getting out early unless your last boat in. How they get away with it with H&S I never know, if one boat goes up in flames the lot will.
Couple of other points and one reason we don't like to raft, firstly, our Eber would set the boat to port alight whilst the sink waste would either sink a smaller boat to starboard or leave yellow stains down his hull.
Don't generally have a problem with rafting up, especially at henley regatta / festival weeks on the booms.
However, after watching some bloke (I was ashore at the time, admiring my splendid ship from afar /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif )put a 10ft scratch down the side of my boat and then trip over my fairylight wires, ripping them out and having the decency to bugger off without leaving a note of apology, I am more reluctant to allow it this year.