Moorings on Loch Moidart

[nevis]

Is one having a bad day or just read the latest gas and electricity invoice. May I suggest an apology to nevis.

no I have had a very good day and earned lots of money love nevis

 

[nevis]

At the risk of getting my nose bitten off...

I do not agree that the entrance to Loch Moidart is easy. A number of the rocks are quite difficult to identify, and in poor visibility the whole exercise would be far from trivial. An excellent Antares chart is now available, however, which helps greatly - providing the power doesn't go down at an inconvenient spot...

I think, however, that the point Fascadale was making is that if you keep your boat in Loch Moidart for a season then you will be going back and forward to it by car, and Loch Moidart is fairly remote with the journey involving either a ferry crossing or a long detour if (when) you miss the last one. There is no public transport that I know of.

Thanks but you are preaching to the converted,I lived in Scotland for 30 years and the last 10 on the West Coast aka Glencoe so I am aware of the distances.

 

[Fascadale]

My house is about 6 miles from Loch Moidart so I guess that makes me a semi local.

Martin Lawrence describes Loch M as "one of the most difficult of all lochs to enter with a labyrinth of isles and rocks" . I always find it a bit of a challenge. Good luck to the OP.

 

[rogerboy]

Thanks but you are preaching to the converted,I lived in Scotland for 30 years and the last 10 on the West Coast aka Glencoe so I am aware of the distances.

YOU SOUND LIKE A RIGHT A---HOLE

 

[nevis]

Camelia, Note that the OP is not Scottish but he will be on the waiting list for the Yorkshire charm school, Awol will be along to explain where he should go.
I am oned for not sure if Loch Moidart is really ready for so much Yorkshire charm, but I suppose if he goes there they might be relieved in Loch Creran.

Ha HA I asked for that one. Alec Salmond once said to me Quote I don't care if he is from Yorkshire but as far as I am concerned if he is living in Scotland he is Scottish Unquote

 

[nevis]

My house is about 6 miles from Loch Moidart so I guess that makes me a semi local

Martin Lawrence describes Loch M as "one of the most difficult of all lochs to enter with a labyrinth of isles and rocks" . I always find it a bit of a challenge. Good luck to the OP.

I agree but all I was saying was I did not find it difficult to enter having followed the directions

 

[DaveS]

Thanks but you are preaching to the converted,I lived in Scotland for 30 years and the last 10 on the West Coast aka Glencoe so I am aware of the distances.

Well, you knew that, and since you've now told us we do too, but your declared location on the forum is "yorkshire".

Incidentally, the West Coast of Scotland is not also known as Glencoe (which is a village in Glen Coe, but you probably know that. )

Perhaps more appropriate clues might generate more appropriate responses?

 

[Sneaky Pete]

you mean apology to camelia

My mistake yes apology to camelia---well spotted

 

[maxi77]

I must admit that I did find the OPs response to the first response completely uncalled for. I has also made it pretty difficult for him to get a sensible response asevery one is far more intersted in his rudeness than giving him the answer he appears to be unwilling to discover for himself.

 

[Sneaky Pete]

no I have had a very good day and earned lots of money love nevis

I am not really interested in your financial status but you do sound a bit of condescending snob that was snob and not knob Why don’t you take both your attitude and money and go elsewhere i hear you may be able to join the knitting and sewing weekly forum. Love Pete

 

[Sgeir]

I have to say that L Moidart, fine for anchoring BTW, seems an unlikely place for commercial moorings. Been a few years since we were there, and there were a few moorings for local boats, but this does not sound like good news. IMHO.

Incidentally the origin of the anglicised Beinn Nevis (Nibheis) is disputed, with some saying that it means heavenly or perhaps cloudy, and others suggesting that it means venomous. Anyone here know?

 

[lenseman]

I must admit that I did find the OPs response to the first response completely uncalled for. I has also made it pretty difficult for him to get a sensible response as every one is far more intersted in his rudeness than giving him the answer he appears to be unwilling to discover for himself.

Hello Peter, I respectfully think you are wrong in assuming it was the message #2 which set the tone?

If you look back you will find the OP's reply to #2 was the message which set the tone. It was Nevis and his aggressive reply which caused all the negative responses.

 

[penfold]

with a stupid response like that perhaps I will in future do my own response,its perfectly reasonable to ask the question on a forum dedicated to sailing and related matters when a number of people on here have local knowledge,perhaps I should not have used strong language but the fatuous answer irked me.there are a lot of posters on here asking the same questions day in and day out and they get a reasonable answer

As has been pointed out, this isn't the lounge; if you don't like a post ignore it. Swearing is not acceptable.

WHAM will presumably have the information you need, although the contact details below are 2 years old so may not be current; WHAM website here.

Robert Clement: WHAM Chairman
10 Letterwalton,
Benderloch,
Oban
Argyll
PA37 1SA.
Tel: 01631 720 357

David Vass: Secretary
33 Ochlochy Park,
Dunblane.
FK15 0DX.
Tel: 01786 822 840

Prof Colin Davidson: Treasurer
Tigh nan Eilean
Ardfern
By Lochgilphead
Argyll
PA31 8QN
Tel: 01852 500532

 

[[70521]]

No he wasn't. he was being cynical

Actually, I was not being cynical! It was a genuine suggestion, in my experience people often overview the simplest of solutions to a problem.

I see you are in Glen Coe, perhaps next time I am home, An Gearasdan, we can have a dram?

 

[nevis]

Actually, I was not being cynical! It was a genuine suggestion, in my experience people often overview the simplest of solutions to a problem.

I see you are in Glen Coe, perhaps next time I am home, An Gearasdan, we can have a dram?

I would like to apologise for what i said it was in the heat of the moment.I could of course have phoned the boatyard for info but thought some of the local guys would have more than just a phone number.it is certainly a remote spot but thats just the sort of place i like to go to.I spent a few days there this summer doing walks in the area from the boat.Actully i dont live in Invercoe anymore we moved back to Yorkshire a few years ago.I go to the Fort quite often though as i have a house there. Next time i am in the area i will pm you.Once again sorry for the outburst.
Regards Nevis

 

[[70521]]

Once again sorry for the outburst.

No problem Nevis. The Interweb is a funny place - they say that communication is 20% verbal/written and 80% non-verbal and we all suffer from the lack of the 80%.

I'll PM you the next time I go home and if you are about we can meet up for at dram.

 

[A1Sailor]

I do not agree that the entrance to Loch Moidart is easy. A number of the rocks are quite difficult to identify, and in poor visibility the whole exercise would be far from trivial. An excellent Antares chart is now available, however, which helps greatly - providing the power doesn't go down at an inconvenient spot...

But surely its easy to avoid the rocks - you just follow the blue line:

Image from http://setsail.com/loch-moidart-sonar-navigation/

 

[Fascadale]

I would like to apologise for what i said it was in the heat of the moment.I could of course have phoned the boatyard for info but thought some of the local guys would have more than just a phone number.it is certainly a remote spot but thats just the sort of place i like to go to.I spent a few days there this summer doing walks in the area from the boat.Actully i dont live in Invercoe anymore we moved back to Yorkshire a few years ago.I go to the Fort quite often though as i have a house there. Next time i am in the area i will pm you.Once again sorry for the outburst.
Regards Nevis

Nicely done.

I agree, Loch Moidart certainly is a beautiful place but as you say very remote. If your boat was in the North Channel then it is very difficult to reach from the "new road" to the north: if your boat is in the South Channel then you have the very beautiful little road from Shiel Bridge to deal with.

If you are in the south channel and land by the castle then its a very long walk to the pub in Acharacle. If in the north channel then an even longer walk back from the Glenuig Inn.

If you have a house in the Fort then what about trying for a mooring in Lochailort? Or even easier Arisaig? The Lochaber Yacht Club has moorings

 

[A1Sailor]

I agree, Loch Moidart certainly is a beautiful place but as you say very remote. If your boat was in the North Channel then it is very difficult to reach from the "new road" to the north: if your boat is in the South Channel then you have the very beautiful little road from Shiel Bridge to deal with.

Fascadale,
Could you tell me where the "New Road" is?
I suspect it is the road constructed ~45 years ago, that my parents referred to by the same name! Where does it run from/too?
Even longer ago, we holidayed at "Cross Cottage" in Acharacle...

 

[Fascadale]

Fascadale,
Could you tell me where the "New Road" is?
I suspect it is the road constructed ~45 years ago, that my parents referred to by the same name! Where does it run from/too?
Even longer ago, we holidayed at "Cross Cottage" in Acharacle...

The new road, that will be the one from Kinlochmoidart to Lochailort. Yes I agree its now about 45 years old.

Before that there was no road linking those places. If you recall the single track coming over the hill from Acharacle terminated at the old shop at Kinlochmoidart. I think from there you were expected to go by boat. There's an old stone slip and a timber pier nearby.

I seem to recall being told that in the 60s there was some grandiose plan to put a road round the whole coast and that the Kinlochmoidart Glenuig Roshven Lochailort stretch was part of it.

I suspect that the other new road in the area, Ardgour to Strontian is about the same age.

There is constant debate up that way about upgrading the road to western Ardnamurchan and even building an entirely new road from Ockle to Arivegaig (see if you can find them on your map)

I would be quite happy if they upgraded the road to Salen then just left it as it is to the west of there: I think the Ockle Arivegaig link would be a disaster but that could just be nimbyist