Mooring in Holland

[PEEJAYSEA]

Hi

I am seeking siome guidance if at all possible please.

I bought our first yacht last summer and she is currently on the hard in South Wales. As I live in Luxembourg (well known sailing area!) I am looking at moving her to Holland at the end of the summer. The simple reason for this is to be able to get to her more easily at weekends and to be able to work on her over the winter period without trapsing back to UKers.

Does anyone have experience of keeping their own boat in Holland? What is the sailing like in general? Are the costs reasonable and is there access to chandlery etc?

We are considering the Middleburg / Veere area.

In short - any guidance would be most welcome!

Thanks
Paul

 

[Jomo]

Young gentleman called wunja works in Holland, and keeps his boat there, will no doubt update you on his next visit here.

 

[sailorman]

Hi

I am seeking siome guidance if at all possible please.

I bought our first yacht last summer and she is currently on the hard in South Wales. As I live in Luxembourg (well known sailing area!) I am looking at moving her to Holland at the end of the summer. The simple reason for this is to be able to get to her more easily at weekends and to be able to work on her over the winter period without trapsing back to UKers.

Does anyone have experience of keeping their own boat in Holland? What is the sailing like in general? Are the costs reasonable and is there access to chandlery etc?

We are considering the Middleburg / Veere area.

In short - any guidance would be most welcome!

Thanks
Paul

The Arne YC in Middelburg has very sheltered moorings i bekieve they are connected with a marina on the Veersmere just north of Veere

 

[MoodySabre]

Emjaytoo of this parish keeps his boat at Kortgene on the Veersmere.

Middelburg is lovely but if you are inside the the bridge then you have the restrictions that places - hourly lifts. There are moorings outside the bridge.

If you don't want to be right in a town then SAS van Goes might be an idea and certainly cheaper. Just one lock on to the Ooosterschelde. Or Colijnsplaat might be cheaper too. Lots of places on the Veersmere - I liked Wolpaartsdijk (on the south bank opposite Kortgene). Can't go wrong.

 

[Wunja]

Young gentleman called wunja works in Holland, and keeps his boat there, will no doubt update you on his next visit here.

Flattery will do it everytime!

Most marina's have a chandlers on site, though a little more expensive than the large store I pass by in Rotterdam.

Not all marinas have boat storage space on the side.

Marina prices are probably half to 2/3 UK prices, but are calculated LOA * beam. My marina charges 850 Euros for 8 meter boat and an extra 300 for winter storage - that is probably among the cheapest though.

Getting work done can be a challenge, if the yard owner doesn't think it needs doing, or will be too expensive to justify it.

Mr Sabre knows Middleburg/Veere better than I, as I mostly day sail around The Haringvliet.

I like Colijnsplaat too and will try to get that far instead of stopping in Roompot if doing the triangle route.

If you have any specific questions, then please shout.

 

[Tradewinds]

I'm a fan of Hoorn. On the railway line. Marine services on site. Good town. Great access to the Markenmeer.

Marina details here.

 

[Koeketiene]

We are considering the Middleburg / Veere area.

You don't mention what size your boat is.

We sailed the area a couple of times, and I would say Zeeland is a great cruising ground for yachts <36'. Anything bigger, and it can get quite claustrophobic. The Grevelingenmeer and Oosterschelde do offer more sea-room.

Another factor are the locks - expect to have to lock in/out frequently to go anywhere. The concept of queuing is alien to the Dutch - beware
Not the mention hanging around waiting for bridges to open.

Marina facilities are generally better than those found in the UK, and there are chandleries on site in most places.
As mentioned above, you can expect to pay considerably less for a berth than in the UK.

When the sun's out, some towns are picture-postcard pretty.

FWIW: since you're in Luxembourg, have you considered Normandy? Wouldn't think it should be much further than Zeeland.

 

[PEEJAYSEA]

Holland

All

Thanks for the replies to date - very informative.

It looks like there is plenty of information out there (good news) and plenty of areas to look at too (again - good news).

Windthief is 36 ft loa with a 6ft draft. She is steel hulled and 50 years young this year - Dutch built one off at Muiden. solid but cosemtically challenged - rather like myself

I had not considered Normandy to be honest and will now look at this as another option.

I had considered seeing if I can get her all the way to Luxembourg to moor up (if there is anything on the Mosel) and that would make life easy for the winter work planned. Has anyone travelled down that way on the inland system?
Cheers
Paul

 

[johnalison]

Although there are plenty of people sailing 36-footers in southern Holland, you would probably find it a bit constricting, not because there isn't room to sail but that there are so many locks breaking up the area. It is an ideal place for sailors with young families however and many people spend their holiday cruise there. The Ijselmeer is more rewarding for sailing and gives access to the Frisians for a more extended cruise.

Normandy is a great place to cruise and mercifully free of South-Coasters. It is within reach of Southern Holland anyway and you would be unlucky not to get back to Holland in a couple of days from Boulogne.

 

[Koeketiene]

Normandy is a great place to cruise and mercifully free of South-Coasters. It is within reach of Southern Holland anyway and you would be unlucky not to get back to Holland in a couple of days from Boulogne.

I would suggest Normandy as a permanent home for a Luxembourg based owner.

Dieppe for instance - no tidal constraints.
Dieppe is getting to be 'not cheap' for visiting yachts, but their annual contracts (see below) seem more reasonable.
This is common practice in France: visiting yachts pay over the odds, and this goes some way to keep the price down for permanent berth holders.

1 - REDEVANCE GENERALE DE LOCATION ANNUELLE DES POSTES
D'AMARRAGE du bassin Jehan Ango
CATEGORIES - LONGUEUR HORS-TOUT - LARGEUR - MAXIMUM TARIF ANNUEL TTC
I - A < 5, 00 mètres 2,00 mètres 1 033,00 €
II A 5,00 - 5,99 m 2, 0 m 1 236,00 €
III - A 6,00 - 6,99 m 2,60 m 1 530,00 €
IV - A 7,00 - 7,99 m 2,90 m 1 828,00 €
V - A 8,00 - 8,99 m 3,10 m 2 167,00 €
VI - A 9,00 - 9,99 m 3,40 m 2 545,00 €
VII - A 10,00 - 10,99 m 3,70 m 2 903,00 €
VIII - A 11 00 - 11,99 m 4,00 m 3 280,00 €
IX - A 12,00 - 12,99 m 4,50 m 3 657,00 €
X - A 13,00 - 13,99 m 5,20 m 4 036,00 €
XI - A 14,00 - 14,99 m 4 404,00 €
le m supplémentaire 368,00 €

 

[wingdiver]

Don't forget that, other than yacht chandlers, there are the fisherman's ones at places like Colijnsplaat where you can buy the same things only cheaper and better.

 

[nauticalnomad]

Hi

I am seeking siome guidance if at all possible please.

I bought our first yacht last summer and she is currently on the hard in South Wales. As I live in Luxembourg (well known sailing area!) I am looking at moving her to Holland at the end of the summer. The simple reason for this is to be able to get to her more easily at weekends and to be able to work on her over the winter period without trapsing back to UKers.

Does anyone have experience of keeping their own boat in Holland? What is the sailing like in general? Are the costs reasonable and is there access to chandlery etc?

We are considering the Middleburg / Veere area.

In short - any guidance would be most welcome!

Thanks
Paul

Im in Scheveningen which is adjacent to Den Haag, I have a 45ft yacht moored here, it costs 200 euros a month in winter and 600 a month in summer, Thats on visitors moorings as there is no permenant mooorings as yet, but they assure me im number 2 on the list. I live on board and seeing most are paying a grand a month rent around the area for an appartment, it doesnt seem so bad.
They however arent the brightest telling me my boat was 15.8 mtres long and that they measured it with a tape.
Until i dragged him down with my own tape measure and proved him otherwise that you have to stretch the tape out tight to get an exact length, Sure why not slacken it off and take it at 30 mtres and also sent plans of my boat along with suggested re-evaluation of his vision at spec savers.
He wasnt so impressed.
And the chandlers here are alot more expensive also, I do most of my boat stuff on line or when i go to the UK.