tcm
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erm, but the tide will ground the boat. Hint: The whisky is good but not a key element of the solution....
Mobo quiz!
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sailorman
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Already done that n in bed now "Pi**ed" /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Ask the fuel attendant in schoolboy french (or portugese, as appropriate) exactly how you're supposed to leave with both props attached using whisky as incentive.
This might reveal that the barge disappears into the wall James Bond style, whether the small turning area upstream will be usable, see if you can borrow that 60-ton crane for a quick lift and 180', or whether backing 2m down the channel using the bowthruster in 20kts of breeze is the only option.
In any case, I wouldn't give up and take to the ground.
dv.
This might reveal that the barge disappears into the wall James Bond style, whether the small turning area upstream will be usable, see if you can borrow that 60-ton crane for a quick lift and 180', or whether backing 2m down the channel using the bowthruster in 20kts of breeze is the only option.
In any case, I wouldn't give up and take to the ground.
dv.
sailorman
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Ask the fuel attendant in schoolboy french (or portugese, as appropriate) exactly how you're supposed to leave with both props attached.
This might reveal that the barge disappears into the wall James Bond style, whether the small turning area upstream will be usable, see if you can borrow that 60-ton crane for a quick lift and 180', or whether backing 2m down the channel using the bowthruster in 20kts of breeze is the only option.
In any case, I wouldn't give up and take to the ground.
dv.
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Mobo "far 2 big" so crane 2 small 2 lift boat + newly aquired fuel.
might b able 2 lift + turn then bunker fuel n bu***r ( last wus censored ) off @ spd.
but "Isle of Jura" now finished so who cares anyway /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Ask the fuel attendant in schoolboy french (or portugese, as appropriate) exactly how you're supposed to leave with both props attached.
This might reveal that the barge disappears into the wall James Bond style, whether the small turning area upstream will be usable, see if you can borrow that 60-ton crane for a quick lift and 180', or whether backing 2m down the channel using the bowthruster in 20kts of breeze is the only option.
In any case, I wouldn't give up and take to the ground.
dv.
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Mobo "far 2 big" so crane 2 small 2 lift boat + newly aquired fuel.
might b able 2 lift + turn then bunker fuel n bu***r ( last wus censored ) off @ spd.
but "Isle of Jura" now finished so who cares anyway /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Bribe the bloke on the fuel pontoon with the bottle of whisky to get his mate the crane driver out of the pub to lift you out of the water before the tide goes out
Alternatively, abandon ship and ring the insurance company
Alternatively, abandon ship and ring the insurance company
tcm
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whisky-free answer
as b1 sed, i bet more wd have thort of this answer if they were there. B1 was closest with his anchor idea.
You HAVE to go, no question, or get more whisky.
I thort the best option was to make a slip line to the bow, and hang onto it. Then release the stern and either kick off from the stern, or reverse port engine to get stern out and in the high wind the boat slowly turns, spinning on that forward line to head into the wind, then drive out. Most difficult prob is to shout at the fuel pontoon not to let the flippin fwd line go.
Second most difficult problem - where to stock up on more wksjy now sailorman et al have drinked it?...
as b1 sed, i bet more wd have thort of this answer if they were there. B1 was closest with his anchor idea.
You HAVE to go, no question, or get more whisky.
I thort the best option was to make a slip line to the bow, and hang onto it. Then release the stern and either kick off from the stern, or reverse port engine to get stern out and in the high wind the boat slowly turns, spinning on that forward line to head into the wind, then drive out. Most difficult prob is to shout at the fuel pontoon not to let the flippin fwd line go.
Second most difficult problem - where to stock up on more wksjy now sailorman et al have drinked it?...
rich
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Hmmm Looks like bad passage Planning to me /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
BrendanS
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Prize winner. What was the prize anyway?
boatone
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How close is slose?
Well....nice to know I got close but........
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The harbour is definitely a dead end altho there is an area with about three boatlengths of width a bit further up.
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....all hinges on how far is 'a bit further up'.
Did at first think of leaving headline attached to quay as a snubbing/swinging aid (thats why i asked how wide channel was alongside fule berth)but seem to remember from real experience alongside a wall at Viareggio that your ropes werent anywhere near long enough for that so discounted it in favour of anchor. Also would have advantage all under your control not possible foreign burk on quayside. Mind you, didnt say YOUR boat and spose anyone else would prob have lots more/longer ropes.......or have you stocked up the lazarette as well as the whisky?
Come to think of it.....wih three boat lengths available, twin engines and a bow thruster who needs ropes........?
Well....nice to know I got close but........
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The harbour is definitely a dead end altho there is an area with about three boatlengths of width a bit further up.
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....all hinges on how far is 'a bit further up'.
Did at first think of leaving headline attached to quay as a snubbing/swinging aid (thats why i asked how wide channel was alongside fule berth)but seem to remember from real experience alongside a wall at Viareggio that your ropes werent anywhere near long enough for that so discounted it in favour of anchor. Also would have advantage all under your control not possible foreign burk on quayside. Mind you, didnt say YOUR boat and spose anyone else would prob have lots more/longer ropes.......or have you stocked up the lazarette as well as the whisky?
Come to think of it.....wih three boat lengths available, twin engines and a bow thruster who needs ropes........?
Its_Only_Money
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Turn around further up, then sit in the first bit of deep enough water in the channel, re-enter the harbour as the tide rises.
If nowt else available put bows onto mud and leave sterngear in channel as much as possible as the bath empties.
Make mental note to self that sterndrives rule and that IPS thingy would be no help /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
If nowt else available put bows onto mud and leave sterngear in channel as much as possible as the bath empties.
Make mental note to self that sterndrives rule and that IPS thingy would be no help /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
tcm
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Re: How close is slose?
agreed, turning a boat in three boat lengths is ok - but not in high wind as described, and as it's a dead end- you only have one chance at it, and may need a heap of revs and if doesn't work or losean engine goes it's whisky time. Doesn't need a long line - just line log enuf to reach from the bow to the pontoon cleat and back - a bow line. in fact it was above eight boat lengths - but that's still a v small area, and it's a real 25knots.
mooring warps/lines in viareggio weren't a problem - we had stack of lines - the prob was the flippin wind grinding us onto the concrete quayside part of which was above the (not sacrificial) rubbing strake and part of it below...
agreed, turning a boat in three boat lengths is ok - but not in high wind as described, and as it's a dead end- you only have one chance at it, and may need a heap of revs and if doesn't work or losean engine goes it's whisky time. Doesn't need a long line - just line log enuf to reach from the bow to the pontoon cleat and back - a bow line. in fact it was above eight boat lengths - but that's still a v small area, and it's a real 25knots.
mooring warps/lines in viareggio weren't a problem - we had stack of lines - the prob was the flippin wind grinding us onto the concrete quayside part of which was above the (not sacrificial) rubbing strake and part of it below...
Aardee
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Fairly sh*t state to get into in the first place. Can't you anchor off, have a kip and wait for more favourable conditions (rising tide etc etc)??
KevB
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If the wind is still form behind you and you have 2 boats width between the fuel pontoon and the other side, put a bow rope on the cleat offside to the fuel pontoon, going around the front of your stancheons. Release stern rope and give a bit of reverse on engine offside to the fuel pontoon to stop the wind blowing you forwards and also to pull the stern out a bit. Wind will push stern around downwind whilst you control the distance of your bow from the fuel pontoon using reverse. When far enough round, realease bow rope which is now nearside to pontoon and drive off. It's that simple. Isn't it?
wakeup
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Re: How close is slose?
I would keep the bow warp tied to the fuel pontoon, release the stern warp and allow the wind with some assistance and lots of fenders to turn the boat 180 degrees then un tie the bow and off you go , don't need to use the engines util you want to go straight out!!!
I would keep the bow warp tied to the fuel pontoon, release the stern warp and allow the wind with some assistance and lots of fenders to turn the boat 180 degrees then un tie the bow and off you go , don't need to use the engines util you want to go straight out!!!
tcm
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well, perhaps. This was a real example, and ok, i cd've got a ship to take the boat, or someone else to take the boat, or not set off from the previous place, or abandon the trip, or the target arrival time furthe down the line ....or of course not buy a boat and so on. The question was "now what"- not "would you like another question".
The solution, though...means you can abort at any time, and end up pointing into the wind and still have a line ashore. That's not actually a sh* t state in the least little bit.
The solution, though...means you can abort at any time, and end up pointing into the wind and still have a line ashore. That's not actually a sh* t state in the least little bit.
boatone
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It's that simple. Isn't it?
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Would be if 'width' meant 'length' /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
It's that simple. Isn't it?
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Would be if 'width' meant 'length' /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
KevB
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Smart arse /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
moondarra
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What do you do?
Obvious!
Check the insurance policy very closely.
Obvious!
Check the insurance policy very closely.
DPH
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"After you've got the fuel ...what do you do next?"
Easy, untie and head back out to sea.
Why, well in your situation you said it was a falling tide and the wind is rising. Therefore whatever manouver you need to do to turn round you should do it before you refuel, therefore giving you another 30 minutes of tide under you with less wind then later.
What have I won?
Easy, untie and head back out to sea.
Why, well in your situation you said it was a falling tide and the wind is rising. Therefore whatever manouver you need to do to turn round you should do it before you refuel, therefore giving you another 30 minutes of tide under you with less wind then later.
What have I won?
tonyran
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Put us out of our misery - -what really DID happen next?