MOBO Among the moorings

While most of us get irritated by inconsiderate behaviour, I think Daka makes a very good point that boats unable to withstand wash shouldn't be out there !

I'd qualify this by saying most fast mobo's around Chichester Harbour nowadays only speed up near the entrance so hopefully not around inexperienced people in dinghies, that's a place one can come across much more serious waves provided by Mother Nature - we once met an American sailor in Alderney, when he heard we were from Chichester he exclaimed " that's the roughest place I've seen, don't people get killed there ?! "

He'd just been across the Atlantic, so I was a little surprised.

I think mobo's are far more skilled and considerate nowadays compared to when I started playing with saily boats in the 1970's.

In those days we were anchored at East Head once, when we were treated to the sound of high powered engines on a gin palace shooting past in the dark, leaving a wash which rolled all the anchored boats, with lots of screaming, glass breaking etc.

It seems there is a God though; the engine sound tailed off prematurely, and we realised the berk had cut the corner, straight over the shallows - we actually heard the bang and whizzing revs as it went aground and sheared off the props, Dad & I rowed ashore in case they needed help, but fortunately not.

An expensive lesson for the high speed hero though !
 
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While most of us get irritated by inconsiderate behaviour, I think Daka makes a very good point that boats unable to withstand wash shouldn't be out there !
I have no objection to you adopting that principle if you really think it appropriate but please note I typed it in jest and I strongly disagree.

Most of us start in little boats and most of us have used a calm day to venture into otherwise dangerous areas.
 
I have been near swamped in a tender up river on the Conwy with my family aboard. The weather was grotty so we went for a trip up river in the dink & some idiot zoomed past at high speed despite my clear "Slow down" signals. We shipped a good deal of water & had to bail out & then return to the boat to dry everyone off.

The problem with wash is that they are very short steep waves, quite unlike normal waves. The period is short too, setting up a synchronous oscillation that is dangerous & difficult to deal with below or on deck.

Most speeding boats only look ahead, they seldom look astern & the wash generally strikes boats after the cause is 100m further on, probably too far for a selfish oaf to see, even if they bothered to look. I have watch boats zooming up the Straits leaving all the moored boats behind rocking gunwahle to gunwhale. It's not a problem on the unoccupied ones, but anyone pouring a kettle when unexpectedly hit by that is in serious danger.

I do understand that a planing boat makes less wash than one not quite on the plane, or an over driven semi-displacement boat squatting like mad at the stern, I also understand that some single engined shallow draft boats are hard to manouvre at very slow speeds.

All I ask is that you use your boats sensibly with due regard to others, especially moored boats, or where someone is working on the cabin top, plus small dinghies & fishing boats (like micro-plus etc). By all means go as fast as you like in the open sea, please try to keep clear of others when at speed, and be aware of how far behind you the wash can be causing problems, obey speed limits & consider the relative size of your wash to the boats behind you.

Thank you.
 
I'd qualify this by saying most fast mobo's around Chichester Harbour nowadays only speed up near the entrance...

Watching the "chav navy" leaving Northney on a sunny weekend, this is not the case!! :D

They get out of the marina turn right and put the welly on.

I've also witnessed speed boats weaving in and out of moored boats on the plane up there.
 
I saw a big RIB powering towards me whilst I was anchored, he passed so close to me he was in ear shot so I sarcastically thanked him! I didn't realise until after he had passed that I should of indeed sincerely thanked him because as he passed so close I didn't get any wash at all :eek:

The next time I see a power boat being used as a torpedo I'll gun straight for him to avoid any wash :D
 
Watching the "chav navy" leaving Northney on a sunny weekend, this is not the case!! :D

They get out of the marina turn right and put the welly on.

I've also witnessed speed boats weaving in and out of moored boats on the plane up there.

Northwind,

there was a notorious incident a year or two ago with a prat in a powerboat roaring among moorings and through Hayling bridge; hopefully Mr Darwin has taken care of him !

I do think people of mobo persuasion / perversion are generally more considerate nowadays.:)
 
The boys with their big toys come out to play, but can they not wait until they are out at sea? I'm quite capable of dealing with a chop in open water but I don't expect to be thrown about in calm water when moored. These big bling boats can be a real pain in the transom!
 
Google is quite amusing when it stitches pictures together.
If you peer at the top of Portsmouth Harbour, you can see the bow of my old boat perfectly sharp, the middle has been faded into the next image section and the stern is not visible. It looks like the thing has sunk by the stern.

Mines the same, if you look at streetview for my address its my old boat, if you look at next door and turn the camera round its my new one :D
 
"boats unable to withstand wash shouldn't be out there !"

That is not the point, most boats can withstand considerable washes. Its called seamanship...

Do you really want to ruin someones day by landing your wash in your cockpit?

Sarcastic "thank you's" often come from my direction as well as dirty looks.

With my first 19 foot boat I shouted "thanks" to one boat as he powered out of Yarmouth. I was on the foredeck and my feet where underwater :eek:...

The dramatic effect that on him I was known to repeat the performance for others :D

Now I have bigger boat it does not matter so much but still means me and SWMBO will not return to Poole or Chichester. The washes and racers took most of the pleasure away and it was not even busy :o.

Its just a shame very few ships in the Solent get to full sea speed to leave appropriate washes it might encourage more understanding...
 
Only just 50!

You should be so lucky, I've just turned 50 so that's it for me then; it's the birthdays with zeroes on that hurt...:rolleyes:

Pah! :rolleyes:

And! .... it only hurts every ten years .... I wish! :eek: :D

An old Welsh rugby player with knees like ‘Railway Sidings’ (all covered in scars) told me in 1980 to “never let them get their hands on your knees” …. and to date I haven’t. :)

A good job too, as apparently procedures have improved greatly, and all that removal of certain bits is no longer the case. :D

So! … take whatever cocktail of painkillers, cod-liver-oil, multivitamins etc you can/need and lets all keep on sailing ……. as it’s good for-us …. yer-know. :rolleyes:

Just give me the ‘strong ones’ & let me back out there. :D :D

Edit ...... It’s still Daka’s fault.... but in a good way. :D :D
 
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The worst case of wash I have seen through moored and anchored boats was by the Porth Dinnalyn (never could spell it) lifeboat NOT on a shout just going out on exercise in the evening flat out through the moorings-there must have been 50 people on boats fist waving and VHF communications were completely ignored. Did the RNLI reputation no good at all. We were not the worst affected (cat) but my wife was very lucky not to get scalded and some smaller monohulls were almost knocked down!
It just boils down to common courtesy afloat, which somehow the owners of larger boats seem to have less of and includes both power and sailing boats.
 
This won't be adding much to the general enlightenment, but some mobos of any type just produce lots of wash at any speed, and it can be alarming for a non-moboer to suffer. I frequently get bounced (in a deep keel 10 tonner) by wash some 2 minutes after a mobo has passed me, even if the mobo was only doing about 8 knots and is both 200yds away in the channel and doing a "considerate" speed.

I used to moan about mobos all the time, until I did a RIB course last year, and then found out personally just how much wash I was causing to moored boats though I felt I was passing through them as slow as I dared to keep steerage way. Its a circle that cannot be readily squared, but I like to think, whilst Ribbing, that I keep my speed down whilst anywhere near moored boats, being attentive to any dinghys that may be alongside, as there will be people who might just be pouring tea at that moment...

So, I've become a lot more tolerant and forgiving as a result. My rule is, if the mobo seems to be going at a considerate speed, I'll think of them considerately, even if I have to hang on to things below.

However the other are just pratts who need a good kicking. Oops! My halo just slipped.;)
 
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