Wansworth
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Great Britain’s Coasting Pilot….Captain Greenville Collin’s…..published 1693. Charles 2commissioned Collin’s as hydrographer and sorted him out a yacht and sent him on a Severn year study of the British coastline
Might come in handy….
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Wansworth
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bikedaft
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Have you bought a copy? Sounds interesting.
Wansworth
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No but would love to see one!
LittleSister
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Yours for just £191!
Great Britain's Coasting Pilot : Captain Greenville Collins : Sailing
You can view some of the maps - and its fantastic frontispiece (we should have this sort of thing in our Imray and Reeds etc. publications today!) - here:
Charts by Captain Greenville Collins
More about the chap himself -
Greenvile Collins - Wikipedia
The Lost Journal of Captain Greenvile Collins, Part 1
I was hoping to perhaps find the text of his coasting pilot on e.g. the Gutenberg or similar website, but haven't done so yet, and have more pressing things to do just now.
Wansworth
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IfI was doing around Britain’s would buy it without doubt…..probably not much changed except for sandbanks and nuclear power station conspic
johnalison
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Much of William Dampier’s sailing instructions around the world from around 1700 were still included in Admiralty publications into the 1920s.
oldharry
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I always find it curious that these earlier cartographers rarly followed the now universal convention of N Up, at least here in Europe. Sometimes gives quite an interesting perspective to see things E or W up!
Wansworth
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On leaving Belgian. Waters the pilot handed the skipper a weather forecast showing Belgium straight along the bottom of the page withtheUK ata most odd position
LittleSister
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Early European sea charts were not to scale, apparently. Bits of the coast of interest - harbours, river mouths, areas of hazards, notable landmarks etc. - were drawn larger, and long straight boring bits of coast, for instance, were drawn smaller. The exact bearings and distances between locations wasn't important, but being able to pilot themselves around hazards, and into port, was.
Neeves
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If you access old Admiralty Pilots, the books, it depends how old, but as mentioned many of the areas interesting to us have not changed, at all. I read some of the cruising guides and compare them with the Pilots - and wonder if the authors of the cruising guides lift whole segments and maybe changed the style of writing - but the content is identical.
Original surveys were made in vessels not much different in size to our yachts and for seldom frequented waters, devoid of commercial interests - nothing has changed.
Old Pilot books have little commercial value for modern commercial vessels as they are out of date - for us - it does not matter.
We use an old Pilot book for Tasmania - nobody appears to have found any new anchorages and the tidal races are exactly the same as 50 years ago.
Where to find - second hand bookshops in towns/cities that are commercial or real outlets selling second hand marine 'components'
But maybe its different in the UK, from Australia - but I cannot believe its different to the, say, Hebridean islands, Orkney or (to be more exotic) the Phillipines coast.
Jonathan
Original surveys were made in vessels not much different in size to our yachts and for seldom frequented waters, devoid of commercial interests - nothing has changed.
Old Pilot books have little commercial value for modern commercial vessels as they are out of date - for us - it does not matter.
We use an old Pilot book for Tasmania - nobody appears to have found any new anchorages and the tidal races are exactly the same as 50 years ago.
Where to find - second hand bookshops in towns/cities that are commercial or real outlets selling second hand marine 'components'
But maybe its different in the UK, from Australia - but I cannot believe its different to the, say, Hebridean islands, Orkney or (to be more exotic) the Phillipines coast.
Jonathan
dgadee
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That was typical of all illustration. Medical ones, too, I believe. Focus was on what the author was discussing.
Roberto
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Here are many charts >100, though the text does not appear in their catalogue
p1 - Votre recherche - Auteur/Contributeur Collins Greenville : 115 résultats - Gallica
p1 - Votre recherche - Auteur/Contributeur Collins Greenville : 115 résultats - Gallica