MG Spring 25

Twister_Ken said:
Faster than an Anderson 22, probably!
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Well it should be at 25' with racing pretensions and giving up a lot of the versatility of the A22 ! I'd be surprised if the Spring is as good to windward in a blow.

As for form stability the A22 has a lot of this - as well as deeply situated ballast stability - but remains balanced when heeled.

Mini Transat boats are a very different beast, and very specialised; losing a rudder is just a risk they are willing to take.
 
Sorry if this is stealing the thread a touch but realistically, how different would an MG Spring be to sail compared to the likes of the Hunter Horizon 26? Both appear to be fairly flighty but pretty safe boats. Both have a very similar internal layout. Both have a shallow draft (ok, going down a different approach) and are of the same era.

I really don't see a vast distinction between the two..
 
I've only sailed a Horizon 27, but as I say I think it would prove much more of a cruiser, which I mean as a good thing.

I'd expect the Spring to be slightly faster in light to moderate conditions then lose out, but if I was forced to take a cruise in one it would be the Horizon.

If forced to race in normal conditions I'd probably go for the Spring, but I can't say I've ever thought of it as a racing boat per se, just a gimmicky stripey salesmans' job.

This is of course just my opinion, formed since the boat was introduced.

As for ' faster than an Anderson 22 ', no pistols at dawn at all, as I say with its' pretensions it should be faster ( except into a strong blow ) but it would be a cold day in hell before I'd swap.

Perhaps a fairer comparison would be an Anderson 26, which would eat a Spring alive and offer much better interior and cruising ability too.
 
Fire99 said:
Sorry if this is stealing the thread a touch but realistically, how different would an MG Spring be to sail compared to the likes of the Hunter Horizon 26? Both appear to be fairly flighty but pretty safe boats. Both have a very similar internal layout. Both have a shallow draft (ok, going down a different approach) and are of the same era.

I really don't see a vast distinction between the two..
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I think you'd have to ask someone who has sailed both. I've sailed neither, so I'll shut up. Unlike some!
 
Seajet said:
I've only sailed a Horizon 27, but as I say I think it would prove much more of a cruiser, which I mean as a good thing.

I'd expect the Spring to be slightly faster in light to moderate conditions then lose out, but if I was forced to take a cruise in one it would be the Horizon.

If forced to race in normal conditions I'd probably go for the Spring, but I can't say I've ever thought of it as a racing boat per se, just a gimmicky stripey salesmans' job.

This is of course just my opinion, formed since the boat was introduced.
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How can an opinion be formed by reading and looking at pictures of a yacht? I would never express an opinion on the performance or comfort of a yacht unless I had actually sailed one.

In this case, I own a NS Spring and have just returned from the regular 650 mile cruise on her with SWIMBO. We found the 'silly aft cabin' rather comfortable and slept well. The yacht performed well in F 6/7 although reefing early is essential. I do club race her but can never sail her to handicap (probably more a commentary of my ability rather than that of the yacht).

Never having sailed a Horizon 27, but been crew on a brief sail on one, I am unqualified to make any comparison at all between the two yachts.

To the original OP, it is comforting to know that lift-out charges can be avoided with the drying out characteristics of the Spring if there are any hull maintenance issues to be addressed, but I would never place her on a dry mooring as a permanent home.

Like Wiggy had to, I need to upsize soon, so any offers for a great Spring 25?

PS We achieved 13.5 knots in her but that was through Corryvrechan!
 
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A good idea of a boats' properties can be had by looking at the design and statistics, also by having sailed among the things ever since they were introduced, both the Spring and Hunter, so instead of trying to criticise me, if you feel incapable of this get some more experience among other boats.
 
Seajet said:
A good idea of a boats' properties can be had by looking at the design and statistics, also by having sailed among the things ever since they were introduced, both the Spring and Hunter, so instead of trying to criticise me, if you feel incapable of this get some more experience among other boats.
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It's also possible to form completely the wrong idea. Your notion that the Evolution 25 is a fatigue inducing boat which needs a gang of winch gorillas to sail proves this point.
 
TSB240 said:
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Some design and performance statistics to compare

MG 25 Spring sail area/displacement 20.98 Displacement hull speed 6.39 PY 1004 displacement 4500lbs Surfing design and potential high
A22 Factory sail area/displacement 17.52 Displacement hull speed 5.88 PY 1063 displacement 2500lbs Surfing design and potential 80s Relic
F11 A22 Harrier sail area/displacement 3.5 Displacement Hull Speed 5.88 PY **** displacement 2500lbs Surfing potential 10 knots VMG! easy to windward!


****insufficient records and no reliable performance figures to date!
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You can believe anything you like in your efforts to be insulting, and I can see why you are being defensive, but those figures are not borne out in reality; and why suddenly pick the Harrier 22 which sold in tiny amounts, where did that come from to fit your drivel ?

The Harrier is a boat of the 1970's - 80's as is the Anderson 22, how about the E-Boat, that's fast but sinks, Evo 22, etc etc. Just say you don't know anything about A22's and have done with it. :)
 
Seajet said:
You can believe anything you like in your efforts to be insulting, and I can see why you are being defensive, but those figures are not borne out in reality; and why suddenly pick the Harrier 22 which sold in tiny amounts, where did that come from to fit your drivel ?

The Harrier is a boat of the 1970's - 80's as is the Anderson 22, how about the E-Boat, that's fast but sinks, Evo 22, etc etc. Just say you don't know anything about A22's and have done with it. :)
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The Harrier is a boat of the 1970's - 80's as is the Anderson 22, how about the E-Boat, that's fast but sinks, Evo 22, etc etc. Just say you don't know anything about A22's and have done with it. :)[/QUOTE]

No insult made or intended.......

Sorry if my sense of humour has compeletly by-passed you..:rolleyes:

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