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Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

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I was mistakenly of the opinion that a discussion about what Coast Guard response one might reasonably expect should one ever consider oneself to be in grave and imminent danger and require immediate assistance, might perhaps be interesting, relevant or worthwhile to the forum.

I now understand that the crime of revealing the content or even the existance of an all stations VHF broadcast, transmitted over an unencrypted public network for the intended receipt of every vessel in inshore waters from Beachy Head to Dorset precludes any such discussion. I guess I'd better turn myself in now - I do hope they'll let my wife and kids visit me and that I'll be out for Christmas, I doubt that I'll be able to avoid dropping the soap for any longer than that.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience so generously and in such good humour and I'm sorry to have bothered you all.

Have a nice day.
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

Heard on Ch 16:
"It's all right, we've wrapped - - - in bandages and - - - is hanging off by the skin".
Anyone care to fill in the blanks?

IMHO Solent CG were firm but professional throughout a fraught afternoon when Seelonce Mayday was ignored, Sunsale wallies attacked booms with abandon, one vessel in distress couldn't identify which Bar buoy was nearest, police and rescue ribs zapped around like headlesss chickens, while obviously unqualified, unlicensed tyros continued to demand radio checks.
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

The RYA booklet is only brief guidance, not the law.

As others have correctly pointed out, that section of act certainly does not apply to Mayday calls, or any other form of "all stations" broadcast.

I don't think it would be taken to apply to any conversation on CH16 as that is a calling/broadcast channel so there is no presumption of privacy.
 
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Posts deleted.

I was mistakenly of the opinion that a discussion about what Coast Guard response one might reasonably expect should one ever consider oneself to be in grave and imminent danger and require immediate assistance, might perhaps be interesting, relevant or worthwhile to the forum.

I now understand that the crime of revealing the content or even the existance of an all stations VHF broadcast, transmitted over an unencrypted network for the intended receipt of every vessel in inshore waters from Beachy Head to Dorset precludes any such discussion. I guess I'd better turn myself in now - I do hope they'll let me wife and kids visit me and that I'll be out for Christmas, I doubt that I'll be able to avoid dropping the soap for any longer than that.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience so generously and in such good humour and I'm sorry to have bothered you all.

Have a nice day.

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Oh come now good Sir, you wont be in that long, just a quick slap on the bot, and you'll be out quick as you like! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

I'm afraid you have been misinformed. There is no prohibition on discussing broadcast messages.

Yours was a good an useful post that raises issues well worth discussing. It is a same that people who ought to know better have sabotaged the thread with false information.
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

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Heard on Ch 16:
"It's all right, we've wrapped - - - in bandages and - - - is hanging off by the skin".
Anyone care to fill in the blanks?

IMHO Solent CG were firm but professional throughout a fraught afternoon when Seelonce Mayday was ignored, Sunsale wallies attacked booms with abandon, one vessel in distress couldn't identify which Bar buoy was nearest, police and rescue ribs zapped around like headlesss chickens, while obviously unqualified, unlicensed tyros continued to demand radio checks.

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And at one point the CG broadcast: "Seelonce Mayday. And for those who do not understand, it means ....."
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

Bedders,

Given chapter and verse I'd have no hesitation in bowing to your interpretation. Until then, all I know is that my VHF instructor definitely said that the contents of all VHF transmissions heard should be treated as confidential information. There was no exemption mentioned for Ch16 rather than Ch72, for example. The quote from the RYA SRC booklet above would seem to back that up.

None of that would preclude discussing the events that caused a Mayday or a PanPan, or the lessons learned, as long as identifiable details are excluded.
 
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If you've got a VHF operator's licence you should recall that part of your obligations are to keep information heard in VHF calls confidential!

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Do you know that for sure?

Can you show me where that might be on say a VHF Licence from say someone in Romania or Indonesia? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

It might be on a UK licence . . . . .
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

Ditto.

I suspect that some of the reasons for this (Wireless and Telegraphy Act, 1949) might not apply any more (Hun soundly defeated etc.)

However, I can still see where semi real-time reporting of VHF information from CH16 onto a forum could cause problems. E.g. "A Twister sailing yacht sank with the loss of all hands a few hours ago" could cause (insert-family-member-here) to have a coronary, before learning that it was in fact Twister_Ben that had sunk instead.

Similarly, even "A motor boat out of Sparkes" is going to get hearts pounding, as there aren't that many...

dv.
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

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Bedders,

Given chapter and verse I'd have no hesitation in bowing to your interpretation. Until then, all I know is that my VHF instructor definitely said that the contents of all VHF transmissions heard should be treated as confidential information. There was no exemption mentioned for Ch16 rather than Ch72, for example. The quote from the RYA SRC booklet above would seem to back that up.



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It's not just the book that confirms it! Here is the statement that all those who apply for an SRC certificate have to sign at the time of application.

"I......................................... do solemnly and sincerely declare that I will not improperly divulge to any person the purport of any message which I may transmit or receive by means of any radio apparatus operated by me or which may come to my knowledge in connection with the operation of the said apparatus"
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

Well that ***** it up for us repeating a mayday relay ......

Isnt that what this post was ?
For all we know the poor sod in the sunseeker could still be out there
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

Key word is "improperly".

Passing on a Mayday Relay back on CH16 ain't improper /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

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Well that ***** it up for us repeating a mayday relay ......

Isnt that what this post was ?
For all we know the poor sod in the sunseeker could still be out there

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Fear not, I have it on good authority that the poor sod is not still out there and that his boat is safely on the hard at Port Solent.

I could tell you how I know this, but I'm afraid I'm not allowed to.
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

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Well that ***** it up for us repeating a mayday relay ......



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/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif It says improperly!


I am not commenting either way as to the validity of the situation, simply responding to Twisters post about confidentiality clause which everybody signs on the completion of the VHF course.
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

Thank you for the Thread, I was reading with interest.

I am grateful never to have called a mayday and learning from other real life situations is important to me.

Pleased he is alright /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Women are exceptionally clear on the vhf in some respects, it is a shame they have other issues that cloud their judgement and ability to communicate their thoughts.
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

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Women are exceptionally clear on the vhf in some respects, it is a shame they have other issues that cloud their judgement and ability to communicate their thoughts.

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Powerskipper, on reading this over my shoulder has the following comment.

F off! Read my thoughts! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Re: Mayday Off Portsmouth Saturday Afternoon

You are of course quite right the key word is improper.

I have heard quite a few discussions in recent years as to whether the Coastguard service is managing to perform it's current task satisfactorily based on information gained from listening to Ch 16 and even the MCA has not suggested that the use of that information was improper, just the interpretation of their competance was incorrect.
 
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