Marmite Misery

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Very boaty this 'cos I get the impression that every well found yacht has a jar.

I was under the impression (with no good reason to have been so, I have to say) that "Marmite" was an Oz invention - probably thought this because as I understood it every Oz going overseas's baggage consisted of spare pair of shorts, spare teeshirt and 6 jars of Marmite. Maybe it is Vegemite they take.

But I see a number of UK references to Marmite on here, so put me out of my misery is Marmite an Oz or UK invention?

John

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John... reckon its Vegemite they take ( I dont like either.. so am a miserable failure ) ..there is more Vegemite on supermarket shelves than Marmite.. anyway will check a few labels tomorrow when I go shopping ..

Not sure about two pairs of shorts.. thats a bit excessive eh ????
BrianJ

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Our Mate

And here in NZ we get Vegemite (yuk) and 'Our Mate' (in a cunning replica of a Marmiet jar)!

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My mate

Marmite is produced from the yeast which is a by product of the brewing process in Burton on Trent. The factory is equidistant between the Coors (ex bass) Brewery, and Marstons.


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Being a bit of a Marmite connoisseur, I will grace you with my leaned opine of them both.

Marmite = great, yum

Vegemite= horrible, yuk

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Marmite is surely the original and Vegemite the copy for cats down under! We Brits were brought up on Marmite sodiers with a soft boiled egg in the days before Muesli and other donkey beddings took over.

When we moved to our latest boat we found 2 huge jars hidden away on the old one, 'safety stock' that had gone way over expiry date and probably put on board by SWMBO after a slight domestic when we ran once out in France - can you believe Marmite is not available in France? I did find Vegemite hidden away in the USA so there are some signs of civilisation beginning to emerge there, won't last though.

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Best thing ever for a hangover - Marmite on toast. SWMBO (a vet!!!!) says that it replaces Vitimin B lost by overindulgence.

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Re: My mate

Always thought that marmite was produced from the malt, and that vegemite was produced from yeast. Hate marmite, love veggie especially with a boiled egg.

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Marmite is very definitely British. It is a yeast and vegetable extract which comes as a by-product of the brewing industry, so associations with malt mentioned below are also correct. The word Marmite is actually French and means a large cooking pot into which a variety of things are boiled down over a long period.

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Very interesting - wasn't aware of the French cooking pot connection but checking in my French dictionary I see that it is.

On the boat we normally have Marmite, but here at home just checked there is one part full jar of marmite and three of Vegemite - one of which is half used, the other a couple of scoops out and the last has been opened (the seal is broken) but nothing taken /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif. Must be a message in that.

So it seems both come from UK originally and the Oz story is just a figment of imagination.

If Brian only has one pair of shorts he probably makes his own Marmite and I'm not surprised that he doesn't like it.

John

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Any more famous Marmite recipes?

Apart from on toast, really thickly spread, like it on strips of bread, no butter, smear of Marmite, baked in oven until crisp (bacon bits as well better). Also with cheese grilled on toast.

Used to have hot Marmite drinks when a kid but not sure I ever really liked them.

John

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Re: Our Mate

I seem to remember that one of the marmite adds (the one with using army personel) said something like "our mate, marmite". I assume they were playing with words on their different brand names for the same thing.

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Marmite is european NOT british

It is a natural by-product from brewer's yeast. The by-products of fermentation—yeast, barm, or leaven—had long since been known about, but it was not until Louis Pasteur's time that the secrets of living yeast were unlocked. <font color=red>A German chemist named Liebig discovered that the waste of yeast used in brewing beer could be self-digested and made into a concentrate, resulting in a protien-rich paste (some would say "sludge") with a more or less meaty flavor. (So Marmite is actually a Continental, not a British, invention! </font color=red>But the Brits were the first to make it commercially viable.)
Some of the yeast extract used in British Marmite comes from Bass's brewery in Burton-on-Trent, and the rest is from various other breweries in the area. (The breweries pay Marmite to remove the yeast from their factories.) The main Marmite factory is about two miles away from the Bass brewery. Burton-on-Trent has been the home of Marmite since the patent was first acquired in 1902.
A chemist speculates that Marmite is made by adding salt to the waste-product produced by the yeast in the brewing process, thus rupturing the yeast cells by osmotic pressure—and then concentrating the resulting sludge.


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Hi Brian

Bovril was not a thing we saw much of over here (NZ) when I was a kid, although I think it could be bought - is many years ago now. Not sure if it is on the shelves these days at all as I think it was one of the beefy extract things whose importation from UK was stopped in case we all got mad cow disease (come to think of it, maybe it was Bovril my mother gave me /forums/images/icons/smile.gif). Will have a look next time in the supermarket.

John

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Marmite and peanut butter on toast or better still on hot crumpets....

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