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been following this post with interest as i have also been looking at nordhavn/marlow.(53). when i viewed the nordhavn, had it not been for speed limitations would be the owner of one now! fit out superb, all equipment seemed top quality. which then forces you back to look at the speed issue. it is a very nice thing to know that when required, open her up and head for home at 25 kts rather than 9kts. i guess it all depends how far from shore you are? if mid channel not really an issue? if mid atlantic, 9 or 25 won't help much? also thinking about it you could not be mid atlantic at 25 kts because fuel range would not allow!!
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Being a raggie myself, I must confess that I find the obsession with speed of most of you mobo-ers a bit odd? I suppose it's down to what you want to use your boat for.
I go to sea, to be at sea, not to be in port, I usually find that more than a couple of days in port give me the twitch, but that's just me, I am not particularly interested in the Marina scene, or socialising, drinkies and so forth, just an anti-social old salt I suppose. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
However, we are not discussing my kind of boating, and knowing Paul's home cruising grounds as I do, very well, and reading what he is saying, I have changed my mind. If Paul is not wanting ocean capability, and if his boating is port hopping, and not spending any appreciable time at sea, then I have to say, that a Nordhavn is probably not the boat for him.
Having said that, I aint sure that the Marlow is either, but it's not my choice, and it aint my money. Having a boat that will take the ground is a very big advantage if you are operating in the Bristol Channel, those of you that are not familiar with it will just have to take my word for it, A boat that can't take the ground, would be a horrible liability. On the Somerset and N. Devon side there are very few Marinas, and precious less deep water harbours. Those marinas that are available, to the best of my knowledge, have sill gates, so are only accessable at certain states of the tide, the Welsh side is better served, but there are still plenty of drying harbours, and as Paul has already said, they do tend to be the more picturesque ones.
Having said all that, the Bristol Channel also suffers with nasty short steep seas, when it blows a hooley, so 25 knots wont help you much either, because you wont with all common sense be able to do it, if you get caught out in a blow. So I dunno, if Paul is saying to himself, all I want to do is cruise about from harbour to harbour, in the sunshine, and he is going to pay close attention to the weather, then the Marlow will probably do him fine. If I was him though, and I was going to spend that kind of money, I would be asking myself, for how long will I be happy with doing just that? Or will it all get a bit boring after a time and I will want to stretch my legs further?
Mind you Paul, if ya wanna be a real sailor man, then I reckon you should get yourself a proper little ship with rags and sticks, then the world will be your oyster, and you wont have to bothering your head about fuel range.
Summat like this for instance
http://easternyachts.com/jdl/index.htm
or this?
http://easternyachts.com/rhea/
or this?
http://easternyachts.com/psyche1/index.htm
Ah, but then, any mobo jockie that took on one of the above, would have to learn to be a proper seaman! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Look out Smiffy.............Incooooommmiiiiiing! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
been following this post with interest as i have also been looking at nordhavn/marlow.(53). when i viewed the nordhavn, had it not been for speed limitations would be the owner of one now! fit out superb, all equipment seemed top quality. which then forces you back to look at the speed issue. it is a very nice thing to know that when required, open her up and head for home at 25 kts rather than 9kts. i guess it all depends how far from shore you are? if mid channel not really an issue? if mid atlantic, 9 or 25 won't help much? also thinking about it you could not be mid atlantic at 25 kts because fuel range would not allow!!
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Being a raggie myself, I must confess that I find the obsession with speed of most of you mobo-ers a bit odd? I suppose it's down to what you want to use your boat for.
I go to sea, to be at sea, not to be in port, I usually find that more than a couple of days in port give me the twitch, but that's just me, I am not particularly interested in the Marina scene, or socialising, drinkies and so forth, just an anti-social old salt I suppose. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
However, we are not discussing my kind of boating, and knowing Paul's home cruising grounds as I do, very well, and reading what he is saying, I have changed my mind. If Paul is not wanting ocean capability, and if his boating is port hopping, and not spending any appreciable time at sea, then I have to say, that a Nordhavn is probably not the boat for him.
Having said that, I aint sure that the Marlow is either, but it's not my choice, and it aint my money. Having a boat that will take the ground is a very big advantage if you are operating in the Bristol Channel, those of you that are not familiar with it will just have to take my word for it, A boat that can't take the ground, would be a horrible liability. On the Somerset and N. Devon side there are very few Marinas, and precious less deep water harbours. Those marinas that are available, to the best of my knowledge, have sill gates, so are only accessable at certain states of the tide, the Welsh side is better served, but there are still plenty of drying harbours, and as Paul has already said, they do tend to be the more picturesque ones.
Having said all that, the Bristol Channel also suffers with nasty short steep seas, when it blows a hooley, so 25 knots wont help you much either, because you wont with all common sense be able to do it, if you get caught out in a blow. So I dunno, if Paul is saying to himself, all I want to do is cruise about from harbour to harbour, in the sunshine, and he is going to pay close attention to the weather, then the Marlow will probably do him fine. If I was him though, and I was going to spend that kind of money, I would be asking myself, for how long will I be happy with doing just that? Or will it all get a bit boring after a time and I will want to stretch my legs further?
Mind you Paul, if ya wanna be a real sailor man, then I reckon you should get yourself a proper little ship with rags and sticks, then the world will be your oyster, and you wont have to bothering your head about fuel range.
Summat like this for instance
http://easternyachts.com/jdl/index.htm
or this?
http://easternyachts.com/rhea/
or this?
http://easternyachts.com/psyche1/index.htm
Ah, but then, any mobo jockie that took on one of the above, would have to learn to be a proper seaman! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Look out Smiffy.............Incooooommmiiiiiing! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif