Vamoose
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I see on the BBC website that an MCZ has been approved encompassing the Colne, Blackwater & Crouch. How long before they start levying a charge to all boat owners ?
Marine Conservation Zones (MCZ)
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Bru
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There is absolutely nothing in the MCZ designation or legislation that supports any possiility of direct costs to leisure users
So I'm at a loss as to where the idea that it could lead to "them" (whoever "they" may be) levying a charge on boat owners
There may, and it really is a case of may, be increased costs associated with leisure related developments - the most likely, indeed at present probably the only significant, effect of the MCZ being to make it more time consuming and potentially costly (or possibly impossible in some cases) to obtain the necessary consents to lay new moorings, put in new pontoons and similar "development" work
So I'm at a loss as to where the idea that it could lead to "them" (whoever "they" may be) levying a charge on boat owners
There may, and it really is a case of may, be increased costs associated with leisure related developments - the most likely, indeed at present probably the only significant, effect of the MCZ being to make it more time consuming and potentially costly (or possibly impossible in some cases) to obtain the necessary consents to lay new moorings, put in new pontoons and similar "development" work
Koeketiene
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DanTribe
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OK, but I am slightly concerned with the drip drip effect of wildlife conservation generally.
For example ;
1/ I anchored close to a river bank near a reserve on the Roach. A Goretex warrior appeared on the sea wall and asked if I was in trouble.
"Fine thanks, stopping for lunch"
" you are very close to the shore"
" I know, it's intentional"
" All right, you can stay there for a while" and off he rambled.
Too late, I thought, hang on I don't need your permission.
2/ At a meeting about the Wallasea Wetlands someone asked what effect it would have on boating and navigation on the rivers.
"none at all " was the verbal reply, but the body language said "who cares?"
Tomahawk
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I was in Brightlingsea harbour office the other day..
They said they want to increase the number of mooringsnavailable..
Unfortunately the slime huggers will now be able to stop any further moorings as this part of a MCZ..
The prqtical upshot is that vironists will stop other people enjoying their passions.
They said they want to increase the number of mooringsnavailable..
Unfortunately the slime huggers will now be able to stop any further moorings as this part of a MCZ..
The prqtical upshot is that vironists will stop other people enjoying their passions.
Sixpence
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Have they actually found anything in these waters that's in need of protection ?, I haven't heard of any sea horse sitings
Koeketiene
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sailorman
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They hide in the pipe weed that the area has been polluted with from ballast water
tillergirl
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According to our local paper, one of the principle reasons is to protect the native oyster.
Captain Haddock
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If they want to protect the native Oyster they need to stop dumping effluent into the river Colne from further up near Colchester Hythe.
I remember Dylan finding a lovely smelling vent on one of his videos going up the colne (KTL42 Upper Colne - Not on line anymore). The smell when on land going through the Hythe is just terrible at times.
Sailing boats are not the problem.
Andy
sailorman
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Ipswich is no better, dont fall in near the Orwell BridgeIf they want to protect the native Oyster they need to stop dumping effluent into the river Colne from further up near Colchester Hythe.
I remember Dylan finding a lovely smelling vent on one of his videos going up the colne (KTL42 Upper Colne - Not on line anymore). The smell when on land going through the Hythe is just terrible at times.
Sailing boats are not the problem.
Andy
Sixpence
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Considering there's already a bylaw to prevent people taking native oysters as they're a bit worried about stock levels, I'm not sure I see the relevance in stopping boats from hurting them. If farmed it's often on posts, nobody I know would anchor in that sort of area. They should look at the yeuch going into the water, not the yacht
sailorman
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Muscles on posts oysters in mud
Sixpence
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You could be right, wibble
sailorman
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I am rarely wrong :ambivalence:
Tomahawk
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Where do these things live? I have seen quite a few oyster like things growing on the sides of marina pontoons.... Does that mean that introducing floating structures where oysters can grow is in line with the MCZ objectives? Obviously, such structures need to be financed...
sailorman
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Where Do Oysters Live?
Answer
Oysters are marine animals that prefer the surface of sloping flats composed of compact mud, sand or gravel. Oysters also prefer to grow on rocks, muddy substrate in areas of clear, warm, sheltered waters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster
Answer
Oysters are marine animals that prefer the surface of sloping flats composed of compact mud, sand or gravel. Oysters also prefer to grow on rocks, muddy substrate in areas of clear, warm, sheltered waters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster
ianfr
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Last time I was in Brightlingsea marina there were quite a few on the pilings, would I want to eat one ?:disgust:
There are also quite a lot over on the Bradwell shore.
Regards
Ian
tillergirl
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Here be oysters where they like it (rocks not natives). In the foreground the oysters grew too large for market a couple of years back so they have been left for 'spatting' (spawning to us). The cleared ground in the background are layings that have been harvested and are ready for the next seasons spatting.
Here are two oyster fisherman returning from the upper part of Salcott Creek where there are extensive shallow and deep water layings (and no moorings) with this day's harvest to the hammerhead at West Mersea.
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One of the stated aims (in the local paper) of the MCZ is to stop outsiders coming and harvesting the Native Oyster from its natural environment in the Blackwater so it gets a chance to spread more widely. Whether legislation ever stopped anything is a separate debate (Yellow lines!) but at the moment nobody has said a word about leisure craft and in particular anchoring. The Oystermen it seems to me want to live in harmony with everybody else (at least a couple also earn a living from laying, owning and maintaining moorings for us) but it is a living for a good number of people.
ex-Gladys
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Interesting about effluent discharge into the rivers... Three weeks ago an Anglian Water van with men and pneumatic drills turned up outside my house apparently when connected to the drains when built in 1972, the bulders connected it to the surface water main, rather than the foul water... Three houses discharging raw effluent for 41 years.
