Marina Rental Prices Cote d'Azure

[J12345T]

Hi All,

I have been quoted a figure of EUR 15,600 for 12 months rental of a 15m berth in Port Grimaud.

Is this a reasonable figure or way over the top?

Thanks.

James.

 

[jrudge]

Seems cheap to me. Getting a berth is tricky at the best of times in sof.

 

[Portofino]

Hi All,

I have been quoted a figure of EUR 15,600 for 12 months rental of a 15m berth in Port Grimaud.

Is this a reasonable figure or way over the top?

Thanks.

James..

It’s ball park .
Certainly not OTT .

 

[Nick_H]

Here's the prices for Port Vauban Antibes http://www.riviera-ports.com/sites/default/files/antibes-vauban-tarifs-secteur-amodie-2017.pdf

15m works out about 13,500 euro with tax, but excluding water and elec. There's probably a waiting list though.

 

[mcanderson]

€16,500 in Beaulieu sur Mer.

https://www.portdebeaulieu.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/PROJET-DE-TARIFS-2018.pdf

 

[markc]

About 11000 euros for 15m at my marina, Port Santa Lucia in Saint Raphael

 

[J12345T]

Thanks All,

Just checking I wasn't being ripped off.

Cheers,

James.

P.S. Any good cruising guides for the Cote d'Azure you'd recommend? Experienced boatie but never been in the Med..

 

[markc]

Thanks All,

Just checking I wasn't being ripped off.

Cheers,

James.

P.S. Any good cruising guides for the Cote d'Azure you'd recommend? Experienced boatie but never been in the Med..

It was our first season this year in the CDA after years in the UK. Porquerolles is not too far from you - we didn't make it this year, but is very high on the list for next year. The islands off Cannes are a lovely spot, but can be very busy. Villefranche is a lovely place to anchor too. I suppose it all depends on what you want to spend your days doing. Having young kids we spent most of our time heading to fairly local anchorages and spending the day swimming, kayaking and exploring with the rib.

 

[mcanderson]

Plenty of bays to choose from ,many with restaurants that will pick you up by tender, that can make for a great lunch venue. Most bays will get some passing wash. We also really like the smaller bays on the southern side of St Jean, the main bay of St Jean, Eze and Mala Plage at Cap D A'il.

 

[Portofino]

Keep to the Middle of the bay ( St Trop ) , ie keep away from the edges for the few times .
Your best places near you. First Learn the marker buoys and hazards they are marked on the chart — carefully .
Just S of St trop past the cemetery,there s a nice bay ,the restaurant will send a lad in a rib or just row ashore in the tender .
Town is a 5 min walk .
The bays to the W , Pampelonne , Cap,Camarat and the next two and the bay of Cavaliere are fab places for anchorage s
Usually if it’s windy you can find a nice spot ,it’s busy in the summer plenty of boat porn in more ways than one
Further W Porquerolles , Port Cros being our favourite , again bun fight busy in the season ,be early to get on the jetties or a buoy .
It’s tricky getting anything 14-15 m on those jetties can be gone ,

E , it’s a bit bland the bay of Frejus however a bit further you can see the CG light is Agay , nice n sheltered ,
Either anchor W cove or take a buoy E cove ( restaurant here too ) .

As said learn the reef s and marks in your bay , there’s actually quite a lot.
Local chandlery will do a “ praque s Du Port “ ( sorry sp? ) it’s a guide book with all the info you need answering you Q

 

[MarkNL]

This is the famous local guide Bloc Cotier. Great value at € 21.

It has all the port and nav info any almanac or guide should have.
It even has a decent map section.
It also is obligatory to have it on board, in the latest yearly edition (although I have never been checked)

As to be expected it's only available in French

Below you will find the link to buy next year's version.... it says 2016 in the link but gives you the 2018 edition

http://www.bigship.com/catalogue/se...de-navigation/bloc-cotier-mediterranee-2016-6

 

[J12345T]

Hi Mark and All,

Thanks for all the info. I have just ordered the Bloc Cotier. I'll give google translate a workout when it arrives..

Cheers,

James.

 

[Nick_H]

P.S. Any good cruising guides for the Cote d'Azure you'd recommend? Experienced boatie but never been in the Med..

The Bloc Cotier only provides information, so it may also be worth getting the Rod Heikell Imray guide which offers a view on how safe different ports and anchorages are, interesting places to visit, and in some cases provides a potted history of the area. It's mainly aimed at yotties, but most of the info is still relevant, and personally I like Rod's subtle humour and writing style so I find it easy to read.

 

[jfm]

Hi Mark and All,

Thanks for all the info. I have just ordered the Bloc Cotier. I'll give google translate a workout when it arrives..

Cheers,

James.

There's an EN version.

 

[jfm]

In addition to all above, put plage taillat into google maps. That's a gorgeous anchorage quite near you with turquoise water. Be sure to follow Porto's advice about studying the chart for rocks and reefs, because you'll be close to plenty of them as you go from Port Grimaud, past pampelonne beach, to plage taillat.

If you search for Top Gear "perfect road trip" on Netflix you get some nice aerial shots of st Trop bay about halfway through the movie, with a squadron 78 blatting around

 

[J12345T]

Thanks JFM,

Do you have a link to the EN version by any chance?

Cheers,

James.

 

[mcanderson]

Here is a link - https://boutique.lefigaro.fr/produit/127720-bloc-marine-mediterranee-2018

I think it is in both Fr/Eng. I can check in a couple of weeks when I am back in France if you like.

 

[Portofino]

While we are on the subject of the “Bloc “ what’s the law exactly ? Regarding who should carry an up to date copy .

I know locals Fr citizens with Fr reg boats in Fr waters I believe have to have one , but what about a red ensign boat owned by a none Fr also in Fr waters indeed kept in a Fr berth ?

Personally I,ve never been asked and basically thought ( rightly or wrongly?) if challenged I could hide behind my flag jurisdiction rules .

I have never bought one - used Rod Heikels and others like “ Pracques d port “ ( Sp. ? ) , and these days 12 years of local knowledge

On a similar vein while in Fr waters a lot what ever that means ie not really transiting through do you have to comply with there other reg stuff like
1- Fr - boat licence- which I happen to have btw
2- safety equipment? ,as well as flares - minor stuff like a signal horn ? Signal mirror , bailing bucket , anchor black ball - just to name a few there are more .
3 - life jackets —— I ask this as I recently saw the coast guard after stopping a rib for speeding make the 3/4 families aboard some 12 pax put them on — you guessed it not enough and the kids ones did not fit ,.
( We have @ least 10 adult + 2 kiddies btw )

Exactly how robust is the red ensign flag for coping out of Fr maritime rules that don,t suit you ??
Like having to buy a Bloc every year ?
Keeping a boat permanently in a Fr port and predominantly using it in Fr waters with out any Fr boat permis ( licence)

As said thus far nobodies asking —- Yet !

 

[Bouba]

While we are on the subject of the “Bloc “ what’s the law exactly ? Regarding who should carry an up to date copy .

I know locals Fr citizens with Fr reg boats in Fr waters I believe have to have one , but what about a red ensign boat owned by a none Fr also in Fr waters indeed kept in a Fr berth ?

Personally I,ve never been asked and basically thought ( rightly or wrongly?) if challenged I could hide behind my flag jurisdiction rules .

I have never bought one - used Rod Heikels and others like “ Pracques d port “ ( Sp. ? ) , and these days 12 years of local knowledge

On a similar vein while in Fr waters a lot what ever that means ie not really transiting through do you have to comply with there other reg stuff like
1- Fr - boat licence- which I happen to have btw
2- safety equipment? ,as well as flares - minor stuff like a signal horn ? Signal mirror , bailing bucket , anchor black ball - just to name a few there are more .
3 - life jackets —— I ask this as I recently saw the coast guard after stopping a rib for speeding make the 3/4 families aboard some 12 pax put them on — you guessed it not enough and the kids ones did not fit ,.
( We have @ least 10 adult + 2 kiddies btw )

Exactly how robust is the red ensign flag for coping out of Fr maritime rules that don,t suit you ??
Like having to buy a Bloc every year ?
Keeping a boat permanently in a Fr port and predominantly using it in Fr waters with out any Fr boat permis ( licence)

As said thus far nobodies asking —- Yet !

Porto, as far as I’m aware it is not compulsory to have a Bloc Marine on a French boat. It is compulsory to have a logbook for more than six miles out, and Bloc Marine do make one, so that maybe the confusion. But the Bloc Marine with the guide to all ports is not required.
You do need other information to be carried with you such as tides, signals, rules of the road etc. The Bloc Marine does have some of this information so would legally cover you

 

[ben331]

We have a house in Port Grimaud, it’s a great place with some spectacular cruising grounds in close proximity. There are plenty of great anchorages as others have pointed out and some others great spots that will be descoved with a bit of pottering around.