Marina/Boatyard charges - Greece

Depends if on the hard or in the water of course
This year I've paid 2877 euro for a 13.1m boat for 12 months on the hard with 2 lift out/ins included.
Leros Island - Dodecanese
Bit cheaper than Portsmouth Id guess :)
 
€1800 for a 12m boat for 7 months on the hard, including lift out and relaunch. Preveza. We also paid €2,500 for seven months in the water in Gouvia: €500 odd lift out and relaunch. €1500 for 7 months at Messilonghi, €250 lift and launch, €1400 for 7 months in Crete but no lift out. All over the past few years and prices are not moving much if not slightly cheaper.
 
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Most places that have a marina that's it. OK, Lefkas for example has the marina and opposite to it is the town quay where it is possible to leave a boat but a marina it isn't. You could leave your boat in say Vliho but that'd be with a guardinage contract on a buoy or at anchor or on a town quay. Not for me, but it is cheaper than a marina.

The reality in Greece is that fully fledged marinas are not very thick on the ground and finding one to suit is always a balancing act between cost, facilities and access to flights. Hence folks are prepared to pay the higher costs of say Gouvia on Corfu as there are flights (direct in summer, via Athens off season) all year round, whilst say Messilonghi is cheaper, has less facilities but a better community and is a five hour, two bus trip away from Athens airport.
 
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Garry & June 'Friendship' said:
.why oh why should there be a 50% surcharge for multihulls on a tidal swinging mooring !!!!
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Probably because they are influenced differently by wind and tide to mono hulled keel boats and so require more

space between the buoys. 50% seems a reasonable surcharge for that reason to me as the yard have to pay for

the lease on the mooring space.

S.
 
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As duncan says the Ionian is probably the most accessible and there is a wide choice of marinas and particularly shoreside storage. Which you choose will depend on your usage pattern and your pocket. The full service marinas in Corfu and Levkas are closer in mode to UK marinas and inevitably the most expensive if you want an in water berth and some time ashore. The yards in Preveza and Messolonghi are less in water and more winter storage. You can usually get space in most of them in the season for the coming winter, so it makes sense to visit them all when you arrive and make your choice. For the last 2 years we had our boat there we used Corfu boatyard for lay up which like affinite included two lifts so it was feasible to effectively dry sail, but we also used short term space at Gouvia for beginning and end of a cruising period to do preparation and cleaning up etc.
 
There are several boatyards here on Aegina, which is easy to reach from Athens airport. No Marina though. If you tell me the length of your boat I can get you some prices for lifting and storage.
 
Scotty_Tradewind said:
Probably because they are influenced differently by wind and tide to mono hulled keel boats and so require more space between the buoys. 50% seems a reasonable surcharge for that reason to me as the yard have to pay for the lease on the mooring space.

S.
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I am not sure I understand.

While I get your comment about the fact multihulls are influenced differently, are you saying that Wicor lay new moorings for multihulls? If not, then all Wicor moorings must be spaced to allow for the odd multihull at which point the 50% surcharge becomes irrelevant as all moorings are the same.
 
Scotty_Tradewind said:
I'm considering taking my boat to Greece.

What do you know about charges for wintering in Greece?
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Very variable, depending whether you winter ashore or afloat. If afloat, varying whether it's a marina, a mooring, or just up a creek, and whether or not you're having someone to keep an eye on the boat. If ashore, varying on type of lift, cradles, security, local facilities, proximity to population centres.

As you may judge from that, there are many free options both ashore or afloat (ignoring lift and launch costs if you're ashore). At the top end, full service marinas are not common, and are about half the price of UK marinas.

If you haven't sailed Greece a lot before, http://www.jimbsail.info/mediterranean/greece describes the country from a cruiser's point of view. That then leads to pages, each of which describes the various cruising areas of Greece, listing marinas and hards for each area, and providing web site links where they are available. From those links you can check advertised costs.

These lists don't include the large number of "free" options, and I'm sure some of the lesser known gems have yet to be published. But otherwise, they cover all places regularly used for wintering by UK sailors who go back home for the winter.

Data first gathered from running charter operations in Greece for 15 years, then several years sailing my own boat around the place, and finally from lots of helpful comments and corrections from YBW readers and their blogs. And many thanks to all of you!
 
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Melody said:
There are several boatyards here on Aegina, which is easy to reach from Athens airport. No Marina though. If you tell me the length of your boat I can get you some prices for lifting and storage.
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that could be helpful...

37' overall (bowsprit and monitor 'stretch' the length)

thanks
S

From P4Paul
"While I get your comment about the fact multihulls are influenced differently, are you saying that Wicor lay new moorings for multihulls? If not, then all Wicor moorings must be spaced to allow for the odd multihull at which point the 50% surcharge becomes irrelevant as all moorings are the same".

I can see your point. I may be out of my depth here, but as I see it there is a space where moorings are laid that is shallow for shoal draft, twin keel and multihulls swinging moorings that dry out at spring low tides.
There are never more than a handful of multihulls seen on the moorings..... perhaps there's a good reason for that..... best you ring them to chat??

Overall we find the yard extremely conveniently positioned for getting to via the M3, M27, A27.
It's a very well kept yard.... not the untidy mess that I've come across in some places and has staff that are always ready to assist.
I've done major maintenance in the yard and made mess and created noise, but that is readily accepted as long as it's left tidy.
There is a small workshop with bench and power to do jobs, an excellent café and small chandlery for most of those refit and servicing bits.
My pontoon is about 40mins from the mouth of Portsmouth harbour and we do have to dinghy out to the pontoon.

I have no other connections with the yard other than being a satisfied customer... :)
 
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P4Paul said:
I am not sure I understand.

While I get your comment about the fact multihulls are influenced differently, are you saying that Wicor lay new moorings for multihulls? If not, then all Wicor moorings must be spaced to allow for the odd multihull at which point the 50% surcharge becomes irrelevant as all moorings are the same.
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Absolutely P4Paul this is exactly what I was thinking and I would be very very surprised if they do actually lay special moorings just for multi's ....
 
duncan99210 said:
€1800 for a 12m boat for 7 months on the hard, including lift out and relaunch. Preveza. We also paid €2,500 for seven months in the water in Gouvia: €500 odd lift out and relaunch. €1500 for 7 months at Messilonghi, €250 lift and launch, €1400 for 7 months in Crete but no lift out. All over the past few years and prices are not moving much if not slightly cheaper.
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those are UK prices once you get away from the fleshpots of the solent.
 
You probably also want to check the weather for the area in Greece you're looking at over winter. The Ionian for example is usually very wet, northern Greece is very cold, Crete has a fairly mild climate but there is only one decent marina (pretty cheap though). If you plan to winter aboard your boat the weather you can expect will make a big difference to how much you enjoy the winter here.
 
thank-you all, some very handy information coming through.

My thoughts are to get crews to assist me to take boat into Med' early June and to go to E. Med' asap, get 'settled in' .... sailing Greek waters.

We may return to U.K. during the hottest weeks of the summer, then go back to cruise until the seasons end and things begin to

shut down.

Typical tourists I know but unless I fulfil other family obligations I'd not be happily sailing with Mrs S. at all.

I'll begin another post asking about the ideal route/passage plan from U.k. to E. Med' to ideally get there asap (in an idealworld that is)

For any one with more information regarding this I'll be very grateful.

S.
 
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