Marian, Marian, Marian, this is your flock calling

[Guest]

If you see this, please tell us what's happened to our home port!

So I suppose I shall have to plead Force Majeure and sit here without paying my harbour dues until I can return ...

Humperdinck

Email: HJ@Seacracker.org
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[NigeCh]

Jumpers

"The server went down with a big bang!! Unusual fault - a cracked card - which was hard to find and also stopped everything automatically transferring to the back up server. They are having to install a new server. "

A cracked card? It seems that it's hit the Trintel Bank and BTW, I reckon that David Sadler copied and everso slightly modified the Trintella IIa. Don't you also think it odd that on a Contessa 26 the blister was also a Van der Stadt invention?

Nige

 

[Guest]

Re: Jumpers

Sorry Nige ... you lost me on the last bit ... what "blister"?

As to David Sadler, does anyone have a drawing of a Contessa 32 ... i.e. what date was she actually designed as opposed to when was she first launched.

Humperdinck

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[NigeCh]

Re: Jumpers

H,

Read the words ... I was referring to a Contessa 26 and the fact that David Sadler 'borrowed' the Van der Stadt blister and applied it to the COntessa 26. He also 'borrowed' the basic nordic folkboat design and turned it into the Contessa 26 ... but then so did Kim Holman with the Twister, as did others with the Stella, Folksong, Folkdancer .... Rustler 36, Joshua, etc etc ....

I also think that the Contessa 32 was copied from the Trinlella IIa - there are too many similarities to make me think otherwise. So what I'm saying openly is that both the Contessa 26 and 32 are modified versions of other peoples designs.

 

[Guest]

Re: Jumpers

Have you looked at the Contessa Association website? http://www.co32.org/PORTAL.HTM

If you look under "History", there's an article by Fiona Rogers. The implication is that the design was developed in the course of 1970.

 

[DanTribe]

Re: Jumpers

A well established tenet of belief amongst us Stella faithful is that Kim Holman designed the Stella on a napkin after a boozy Burnham Week dinner.
Thats part of our gospel and we wont let the facts spoil a good story.
Dan

 

[bedouin]

Re: Jumpers

Of course they are - there are very few truely original yacht designs from that date.

The Contessa 26 is a deliberate Folkboat derivative. The Contessa 32 is very similar to the Centurion 32 (a Holman design dating from 3 years earlier) almost to the nearest inch/pound. Whether the Centurion is really an original, or whether it is itself based on an earlier design I don't know.

The 'laws' of sailing, (not to mention the IOR) are the same for everyone so it's not surprising that several manufacturers came out with identical designs.

Rather like the current situation with BenJenBavs!

 

[steve_cronin]

Got this email from Marian yesterday:-

Gibnynex has gone down, they just came on again but went down almost immediately. All the sodding lines are engaged - either irate clients or phone off hooks - bt I knw they were to upgrade the statistics software this week so they may have screwed somethingg whilst doing it.

 

[cngarrod]

Why don't you like these forums then?

 

[Guest]

This is a great forum ...

... although sometimes a bit "PC" in that people have had messages pulled for mentioning S***sail.

Humperdinck

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[Guest]

Re: Jumpers

I still don't understand what you mean by a "blister".

As to the rest, all I can say is that the Trintella IIA was designed by Van de Stadt in 1965 - with his final plans being issued on the 1st June that year.

So did he copy or was he merely influenced?

Humperdinck

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[Guest]

C\'est la vie

"Yesterday morning our server developed a fault. Normally, this would have passed almost unnoticed, as the data would have been auto transferred to the back up server. Unfortunately, the fault was a very unusual one, which not only prevented the automatic transfer taking place, but took some time to trace. When it was traced, the only solution was to manually transfer the entire website – with its supporting software – to a new server.

This was done last night and the main site is now functioning, together with the binary file applications which operate systems such as this mailing list.

Unfortunately, there are still unresolved problems with the connections between the binary applications and the SQL database applications which are needed to operate the Forum and to handle the very heavy traffic on the News service. Therefore, neither of these are functioning at present.

These problems are being worked on at present but, since there are a number of possible causes it may take some hours to trace and rectify the fault.

We apologise to Forum users and News service readers and assure them that everything possible is being done and that yesterday’s News will be uploaded as soon as the systems are restored. We will inform you when this has been done."

Well that is what the e-mail I have just received said!!

 

[david]

John ! Making excuses for Marian

why don't you own up and admit that she fxxked it up We all no she loves going to bed early because she's shaxxed out, or is it for a shxg

Sorry to have to use x's but on this puritanical bb I rather think my message would be pulled

Anyway here's a toast to BYM "Arsoles away for the day"

PS, Don't you just love it, "What no emoticons"

David

 

[Guest]

It might keep some happy though!!

Well at least Bill cannot complain about Emoticons over here can he!!

 

[Guest]

Re: Jumpers

I suspect that the blister is the bubble shape over the companionway.

 

[NigeCh]

Correct

It was a Van der Stadt design which strenghens the structure. A sliding companway hatch can cause hull twisting problems.

 

[Guest]

This is a great forum.....but

It is very "purist", inasmuch as anything posted in anyway unrelated to "nautical" topics seems to attract a mass of criticism. BYM is more of a yacht club bar, where a whole variety of topics are regularly discussed.

 

[Guest]

van DE stadt, please! (nm)

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Humperdinck

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[NigeCh]

No title (as I can\'t think of one)

... and may God bless all who sail in her.

BYM is the same as in any cockpit. It's everyday reality. IMO, it's the reality of what's posted honestly and without trying to pull punches. It's very openness is one of its strengths that sets it apart. It's there to be read, contributed to, or ignored. It's all down to individual choice.

Like attracts like. BYM is not just chat but can be contentious. Questions are raised there and discussed that other edited BB's wouldn't tolerate. The posters do excercise self-control (sometimes!) and also go slightly awol from time to time .... but overall it is a home for those who do sail and sail seriously.

And what is sailing cockpit talk? Anything under the sun that happens to come up as it comes up including submarines ....

Cheers,

Nige

 

[NigeCh]

S O R R Y !!!!

Next I'll be saying things like Chuckle Paine or Bobbin Perry etc ...

Ola ventura,

Nige