capnsensible
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Way different thoughts here on our small Atlantic Island!
Making the boat lighter.
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capnsensible
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But get your head around that here, everyone does, it, its acceptable and no one moans. Weird, eh?
dunedin
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Then it is pointless. If everybody agrees to bend the rules by removing their anchor, why not save everybody a lot of effort and just agree that you all leave the anchor on. Then impact on the racing …. And more time for beer afterwards.But get your head around that here, everyone does, it, its acceptable and no one moans. Weird, eh?
Chiara’s slave
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Besides, if theres any tide, an anchor can be a major contributor to performance. Especially if you pretend to continue sailing.
B27
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I guess that off a 'small atlantic island' you might need a lot of string though?
Chiara’s slave
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And not much tide.
johnalison
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I have two anchors, one with chain and the other mostly warp. If I am required by the rules to carry an anchor, I am not cheating if I choose to leave the heavy lifting one behind.
capnsensible
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capnsensible
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Well they won't be concerned about 'selection of an anchor berth'
penfold
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Who says it's cheating? That's down to the specific class/rules.
dunedin
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Who says I am worried. Just pointing out it seems a waste of time if everybody spends time and effort removing the same stuff
capnsensible
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Doesn't take long. And the competitors don't feel its a waste of time. Their club, their rules. And they enjoy it too!
Some years since I've been involved but was nice racing on blue seas.
penfold
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That said the goobers who emptied their gubbins onto the pontoon before races at numerous Sigma 33 championships never seemed to do well enough to justify the effort. While we wanted to compete we weren't about to start sailing without a crate of beer and means of making a cuppa and shifting all the other accoutrements twice a day was much too much like hard work.
capnsensible
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I still occasionally sail a Sigma 33 but not to race. Thing is though, when there's some breeze and there is any other yacht nearby.....
Chiara’s slave
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Every day is race day on the right boat. Sailing through the lee of a fully crewed 40 footer is our favourite. We make a cuppa when we see one a mile ahead, especially.I still occasionally sail a Sigma 33 but not to race. Thing is though, when there's some breeze and there is any other yacht nearby.....
doris
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Why? Just get a plumber to fix the loo.I do have 3 store rooms in the basement, and have recently started storing sh!t in the sauna.
ProDave
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Last weekend in very light winds, we sailed past an identical boat to ours. Of course we were not racing but we were certainly managing a lot faster in the very light winds.
Neeves
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In terms of performance minimising weight may or may not improve performance. (I'd join the Weight Reduction Party). However the concepts engenders the idea you are serious about performance and it slips into other activities, keeping the hull clean, making sure the prop is folded.
Its a philosophy.
In terms of anchors and chain - its the chain that normally has the larger weight and most racing rules suggest, or allow, a minimum amount of chain - a few metres - and the rest warp. Just keep it on the pontoon - no-one is going to easily steal 100m of 10mm chain.
Leaving it all behind is simply plain daft - on leaving Cape Town the then Volvo yachts encountered light winds and an adverse tide - the whole fleet deployed their Fortress anchor. One of the Imoca 60s deployed their Fortress in Sandy Bay, Auckland Island (way south of NZ) in order to repair the WattnSea. These yachts don't have convenient bow rollers and the chop allowed the rode to wear through. The second, 2 were required to be carried, Fortress was deployed.
Anchors can be oddly useful.
Though why anyone would carry a steel anchor is questionable.
Jonathan
We were racing in Manila after a RORC China Sea Race in a local race and were warned of a Protest as we were using a Pole. We objected as this was racist as he was in fact East German - we had to take a time penalty for using a boat hook to pole out the headsail - but the funny side was appreciated.
Jonathan
Its a philosophy.
In terms of anchors and chain - its the chain that normally has the larger weight and most racing rules suggest, or allow, a minimum amount of chain - a few metres - and the rest warp. Just keep it on the pontoon - no-one is going to easily steal 100m of 10mm chain.
Leaving it all behind is simply plain daft - on leaving Cape Town the then Volvo yachts encountered light winds and an adverse tide - the whole fleet deployed their Fortress anchor. One of the Imoca 60s deployed their Fortress in Sandy Bay, Auckland Island (way south of NZ) in order to repair the WattnSea. These yachts don't have convenient bow rollers and the chop allowed the rode to wear through. The second, 2 were required to be carried, Fortress was deployed.
Anchors can be oddly useful.
Though why anyone would carry a steel anchor is questionable.
Jonathan
But get your head around that here, everyone does, it, its acceptable and no one moans. Weird, eh?
We were racing in Manila after a RORC China Sea Race in a local race and were warned of a Protest as we were using a Pole. We objected as this was racist as he was in fact East German - we had to take a time penalty for using a boat hook to pole out the headsail - but the funny side was appreciated.
Jonathan
Poignard
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I don't know what the previous owner of my boat carried around but after I took delivery of her I found I had to extend the boot-topping downwards!
rotrax
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"That might come in handy one day" .... the road to a cluttered life. I have a basement, shed, and attic full of stuff like that. Even worse, when my brain tells me I've got something somewhere.... I can never find it, so I buy another, and a few weeks later the original turns up.... I'm heading for retirement in a few years and I am determined to get rid of everything and start a clutter-free life. My boat was fortunately clutter free because the amount of space wasn't as overwhelming as a house.
We have had three home "Downsizes" since 2012 when we retired.
Now looking at another partial one.
I know, from direct experience EXACTLY where you are coming from!
After dealing with the clutter of our respective parents we are determined not to leave our kids in the same boat!
We have a largish vessel, 12.4 metres but with massive internal volume. First mate will not allow the interior to become overly cluttered, everything has to have its place.
A springtime job is to take everything from the lockers - I do this every spring to grease the steering and rudder nipples - and to only put back what is essential.
We shall see how I get on, as I also hate getting rid of anything that might be 'useful'............................................................