Making an offer

[Wansworth]

Came across a nice looking sailing boat called Gregal23 designed bythe late Angus Primrose for a Spanish boatbuilder in the 1970s.By e-mail I offered just over half the price as at12,000 euros itwas too much………no reply yet.Maybe as the summer wares on and the rain and winds of autumn arrive the price may drop?

 

[Poignard]

What you should do now is to get several of us offer less than 6,000 euros, then the seller might reconsider

 

[LittleSister]

Came across a nice looking sailing boat called Gregal23 designed bythe late Angus Primrose for a Spanish boatbuilder in the 1970s.

Ooh, that looks a bit sporty!

Any truth in the rumour they're a bit tender?

 

[Wansworth]

Ooh, that looks a bit sporty!

Any truth in the rumour they're a bit tender?

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Probably?

 

[Skylark]

By e-mail I offered just over half the price as at12,000 euros itwas too much………no reply yet.

Maybe the owner thinks that your offer isn’t worthy of a reply ?

 

[Wansworth]

Maybe the owner thinks that your offer isn’t worthy of a reply ?

Yes your probably right

 

[Concerto]

Presume you have veiwed the boat and met the owner. Is so, I would assume your offer does not come close to his expectations so is ignoring you. Give him a week to consider things and contact him again to start serious discussions. He will then realise you are a serious buyer, not a cheapskate tyre kicker.

 

[Poignard]

Maybe the owner thinks that your offer isn’t worthy of a reply ?

Well if he does, he's a poor salesman.

I would respond with something like this :

"Dear Mr Wansworth
Thank you for your offer but, as you can see from the advertisement, I have already reduced my asking price by 3,000euros and, although I might be willing to consider a further reduction, I could not accept an offer as low as 6,000euros.
I am sure that if you were to come and have a look at the boat you would see that she is an outstanding example of her type, very well equipped, and in perfect condition.
I look forward to hearing from you again.
Kind regards etc. "

 

[waynes world]

If you havnt seen the boat ( have you ? ) how on earth can you make an offer. I myself would not bother to reply with such an offer unless you have spoken and viewed the boat yourself.
Its not to do with seller being rude or bad salesman, more ignorance on the buyers side and making an effort to start with.
To many timewasters about nowadays to have time to reply to many people who are likely to lazy to make a proper sale.

 

[Wansworth]

If you havnt seen the boat ( have you ? ) how on earth can you make an offer. I myself would not bother to reply with such an offer unless you have spoken and viewed the boat yourself.
Its not to do with seller being rude or bad salesman, more ignorance on the buyers side and making an effort to start with.
To many timewasters about nowadays to have time to reply to many people who are likely to lazy to make a proper sale.

I made the offer unseen except for photos etc as it’s quite along way to go and didn’t seem much point in wasting both our times if we wernt on the same page

 

[Skylark]

Well if he does, he's a poor salesman.

I would respond with something like this :

Then on this matter, my dear Mr Poignard, it’s probably best if we agree to disagree ?

We’re talking about a sailing boat, not some worthless tat found in an Arabian Bazaar.

I’d consider an offer of just over half the advertised price as a bit of an insult and would resolve to not communicate with such a chancer. It may ultimately be my loss but I’d be prepared to live with my decision.

 

[Wansworth]

Then on this matter, my dear Mr Poignard, it’s probably best if we agree to disagree ?

We’re talking about a sailing boat, not some worthless tat found in an Arabian Bazaar.

I’d consider an offer of just over half the advertised price as a bit of an insult and would resolve to not communicate with such a chancer. It may ultimately be my loss but I’d be prepared to live with my decision.

Having spent time and considerable effort looking at boats advertised herein Galicia I decided on my approach to save mutual time waiting,many boats are over priced as there is a very small selection in Galicia.Similar boats are for sale in Barcelona or Alicante for half the price advertised in Galicia

 

[Poignard]

Then on this matter, my dear Mr Poignard, it’s probably best if we agree to disagree ?

We’re talking about a sailing boat, not some worthless tat found in an Arabian Bazaar.

I’d consider an offer of just over half the advertised price as a bit of an insult and would resolve to not communicate with such a chancer. It may ultimately be my loss but I’d be prepared to live with my decision.

Many people trying to sell something, eg boats, card, houses, antiques, or whatever, convince (delude) themselves that what they would like to get for it is what they are entitled to get.

Unless they are lucky enough to find a sucker straightaway they end up with a depreciating asset, costing money to maintain, until they end up accepting a realistic price or even less than if they had not been so pig-headed.

I knew a man who had his optimistically priced boat on the brokers' books for almost two years until, diagnosed with a terminal illness, he had to sell in a hurry to avoid leaving his widow to deal with it. He ended up having to accept a low price.

 

[steveeasy]

Sometimes they are worthless tat. There is nothing wrong with any offer however don’t expect it to be accepted. It is Curtious to respond to any offer and rude not too. Far too many sellers pop the don’t waste my time in the for sale add. Just makes themselves look stupid.
steveeasy

 

[srm]

When selling my previous boat, quite a while back now, the broker expected offers at about 20% below asking price.

I don't think unseen and a bit over 50% of asking price would be taken as an indication of serious interest. At the very least you need someone to inspect and photograph the boat on your behalf to show a bit of interest and commitment. I can also understand where you are coming from having viewed boats that were a total waste of time and based on photos that were obviously taken many years previously.

Owners always over value their boats, but if you are serious about buying they need to be carefully guided towards a realistic value that you are both comfortable with. Any offer well below asking will be more credible if based on you own observations and also explains how you arrived at the figure.

 

[Skylark]

Many people trying to sell something, eg boats, card, houses, antiques, or whatever, convince (delude) themselves that what they would like to get for it is what they are entitled to get.

Unless they are lucky enough to find a sucker straightaway they end up with a depreciating asset, costing money to maintain, until they end up accepting a realistic price or even less than if they had not been so pig-headed.

I knew a man who had his optimistically priced boat on the brokers' books for almost two years until, diagnosed with a terminal illness, he had to sell in a hurry to avoid leaving his widow to deal with it. He ended up having to accept a low price.

No issue but find it a strange premise to assume that the seller has overpriced it and only a “sucker” buys at (or near) the advertised price. Nevertheless, I remain happy to stick to my principles, albeit not a commonly held position.

I’ve only once sold a boat on the interweb. I received an offer along the lines of “……I only have a budget of £x (about 70% of my asking price)”. I thanked him for the offer but added that “with that budget, you will not be buying my boat but good luck with your search”

Can we agree to differ or do we have to resort to pistols at dawn ?‍

 

[Capt Popeye]

When selling my previous boat, quite a while back now, the broker expected offers at about 20% below asking price.

I don't think unseen and a bit over 50% of asking price would be taken as an indication of serious interest. At the very least you need someone to inspect and photograph the boat on your behalf to show a bit of interest and commitment. I can also understand where you are coming from having viewed boats that were a total waste of time and based on photos that were obviously taken many years previously.

Owners always over value their boats, but if you are serious about buying they need to be carefully guided towards a realistic value that you are both comfortable with. Any offer well below asking will be more credible if based on you own observations and also explains how you arrived at the figure.

Yep have been active selling Boats ,Cars , Houshold Items for last few years now , and recieved many offers , unseen , not contacted me to ask /discuss matters etc etc

All them been a complete waste of time ; eventually someone contacted me Q is item still for sale , I have cash waiting so am very interested ; we meet and discuss item for sale , talk about an offer , as seen and inspected ; discuss payment options /time scale etc ; agree to settle amicably eache's issues ; Delivered or not ? receive cash and feel well pleased ;
Often those whom talked big but were not confident of actually buying ithe item , called after the sale had been completed and be moaned the fact that someone else had steped in and bought it ; plus was probably now sailng , driving it around happilly

Think that if one makes a low first offer , item unseen , then an explanation needs making in the offer package , that the offer price is what you are liking to buy for , so is that agreeable to the seller .

 

[biscuit]

Dear W, when you come to sell your next boat, after fixing what you feel is a realistic price, consider how would you respond to someone who offers half that price, and hasn't even seen it, and never even seen, sailed or been on a similar example? This is mere fantasising, I'm afraid.

 

[Wansworth]

Dear W, when you come to sell your next boat, after fixing what you feel is a realistic price, consider how would you respond to someone who offers half that price, and hasn't even seen it, and never even seen, sailed or been on a similar example? This is mere fantasising, I'm afraid.

Its the market,the owner is offering his boat for12,000 euros which with reference to similar boats in Galicia and the rest of Spain is too high in my opinion.To avoid waste ing his time and mine I offered that my price would stat at 7,000 euros.Not wasted his time nor mine,but if he was interested he can e mail me if he does the is obviously not interested ,what’s wrong with that?

 

[waynes world]

Its the market,the owner is offering his boat for12,000 euros which with reference to similar boats in Galicia and the rest of Spain is too high in my opinion.To avoid waste ing his time and mine I offered that my price would stat at 7,000 euros.Not wasted his time nor mine,but if he was interested he can e mail me if he does the is obviously not interested ,what’s wrong with that?

I dont see thew point in this thread then.

Next time atleast call to talk to a seller if your going to make any unseen offer.

I have sold many a boat over the years and had unseen offers. I said yes but come to see it first before you are 100% on your offer, I travel to such boat and they dont turn up. I would rather folk come to see a boat then offer if they want it.

Folk make offers, turnup then try to knock you down on the offer they gave.

I traveled 260 mile / 6hr drive to look at my recent boat, its the decent thing to do IMO . Its what you should do or get a qualified person to look at it and value it for you maybe.