Magnetic fuel treatment

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Has anyone experience of using a magnetic fuel treatment device like Fuel Mag described on the Separ filtration website.

I've just got a simple device for a few pounds on Ebay to try which just clips around the fuel line.

As we have had Nikon magnetic bed at home and on the boat which has transformed our sleeping habbits, we will see if there are any effects on the engine and report back later in the year.

Malcolm
 
Nikon magnetic bed at home and on the boat

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Isn't this just contributing to your 'deviation'? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
As I understand it the particles get charged and have a very small magnetic field, this in theory aligns them and this in turn improves filtering and distribution.

I can understand how it might improve filtering by aligning the particles, but I doubt any magnetic field generated by a magnet small enough to clip to the fuel line would be strong to cause any realignment in the fraction of a second between injector spraying and ignition.

Avagoodweekend......
 
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How do you magnetically align something non-ferrous

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Things do not have to be ferrous to exhibit ferromagnetism. Nickel and cobalt for example

Diamagnetism and paramagnetism are other magnetic properties you might like to read up on. Paramagnetism is a property of oxygen that is used in instruments to measure oxygen concentration in gas streams for example.

You might also care to read up on nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) used in as a medical diagnostic tool.

Not suggesting that any of these have any relevance to fuel conditioning or that it is effective just that there is more to magnetism than just magnetising lumps of iron.
 
"As we have had Nikon magnetic bed at home and on the boat which has transformed our sleeping habbits, we will see if there are any effects on the engine and report back later in the year"

Interesting concept: winterising your engine by making the fuel hibernate /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Snake oil! The magnetic susceptibility of things like oil are of the order of 10 ^-7 that of iron so I cant see how a small magnet can have the slightest effect on filtration unless the particles filtered out are ferrous / nickel etc.

And as for magnetic beds - well people these days believe in all sorts of things from homeopothy to spiritualism to black magic and yogic flying. Why not?
 
I've heard of magnetic treatment of water because it has dipoles . Fuel is non polar and so cannot be treated with magnets in my opinion .
 
Saw this, amongst other "economisers" being thoroughly discredited on Mythbusters last night.
They tried it on a car on a rolling road at a couple of set-points with no effect whatsoever.
As they say "Myth Busted!"
 
NMR and MRI is working on the body fluids , and they contain dipoles just like water . Fuels do not have dipoles and cannot be influenced by magnets.
 
I just took the time to read the Separ web stuff.
They are not claiming improved fuel efficiency - but exactly WHAT they are claiming as an advantage I don't know.
The idea is that microbes in the fuel are whirled through a magnetic field, thus inducing them to .. what? die? explode? get confused and go home?
Assuming it kills microbes (big assumption - not sure how you feel about yer magnetic bed now!) you are still going to pass their little bodies through your engine - so no nett advantage.
UNLESS you continuously recycle your fuel from the tank through the gizmo and back to the tank thus culling them and stopping the little beggars from breeding/parthogeniziziziziing or whatever they do for fun.
I know aquarists sometimes use the same kind of doohickey, and I understand that the belief is that it makes organic matter "clump-up" and stick in the filter material.
Don't know if it works though.
 
Seems that G Merrill Andrus, who wrote one of the articles you linked to, has moved on from the smoke and mirrors world of magnetic fuel treatment. He now runs Theranaturals Inc, a company selling pills which can apparently help everything from genital warts to breast cancer. Strange that each product description is qualified by Note: These statements have not been approved by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
 
I owned a boat for season which the previous owner had fitted a similar sounding gadget. All it ever did was act as a primitive pre-filter, collecting some of the rubbish before the fuel met the primary filter.

Better spend your money on having the tank steam cleaned and if you are bunkering with dodgy diesel, buy a Baja Filter they're worth every penny.
 
Yes... Great Sea Snake oil !... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Firstly, this guy is selling something - so I'm on my guard already.
Then he starts using "energy" and "force" interchangeably. NOT the same thing. He is, as has been said elsewhere, selling "snake oil"!
 
The important thing is to tell your engine that you have fitted the device and just like homeopathy it will then feel very much better. It's probably best to remind your engine every time you start it to reinforce the assurance. If it's a Volvo I suppose you need to learn the appropriate Swedish. ;-)
Morgan
 
Fitted,along with pure tin anodes during WW2. To fighters supplied to the Russians in order that the Merlin engines could run more effeicently on lower grade fuel, the magnet being in the line from tank to fuel pump and the tin suspended in the tank. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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