Macwester Seaforth

[chinita]

Got a mate coming over from Ireland to view a Macwester Seaforth.

I know nothing about these boats.

Anything he should be looking out for or general comments - good and bad much appreciated.

TIA

 

[chinita]

Oh dear, found a few bits and pieces on t'internet. Does not look too good.

 

[clyst]

Oh dear, found a few bits and pieces on t'internet. Does not look too good.

In what way ?? I think they look really seaworthy /kindly . Only downside when we looked at one was it had a "linear" galley.

 

[Rivers & creeks]

Looks like a nice boat but those short bilge keels won't let her beat well - says he with a long keel ketch

 

[Seajet]

Macwester;

good point

built like a brick ****house

bad point

sails like one too

 

[jamesjermain]

One of my least favourite boats, I'm afraid. Solid hulls but cramped interior not very well fitted out and sails like a motor boat.

 

[Applescruffs]

I know there are as many keel configurations as there are boats out there but is ther

Macwester;

good point

built like a brick ****house

bad point

sails like one too

Totally agree...

I had a MacWester Rowan 22 ...GRP 1" thick...but had to sail around every tack.....

So then I bought a Mirror Offshore......

Do we never learn ??

 

[CAPTAIN FANTASTIC]

I have not sailed the Seaforth but i have a Macwester Wight sloop for a number of years; solid boats, roomy, will take you anywhere, not fast, low maintenance, can take the weather, need to know how to sail them.

 

[Seajet]

I have not sailed the Seaforth but i have a Macwester Wight sloop for a number of years; solid boats, roomy, will take you anywhere, not fast, low maintenance, can take the weather, need to know how to sail them.

How's that then, leave it safely nailed down ashore as a caravan then get a sailing boat actually designed as such by someone like Oliver Lee, Laurent Giles, Rob Humphries...

 

[chinita]

Thanks everybody. I shall try to distill all the comments for my mate.

Or perhaps not. Sometimes ignorance is bliss and beauty in the eye of the beholder !

 

[charles_reed]

How's that then, leave it safely nailed down ashore as a caravan then get a sailing boat actually designed as such by someone like Oliver Lee, Laurent Giles, Rob Humphries...

+1

or even German Frers, Tony Castro, Angus Primrose, S&S....

 

[Topcat47]

Oh come on guys, it's an old fashioned motorsailer, not a vendee globe contender. If that's what the guy wants, why shouldn't he have it?

 

[jamesjermain]

Oh come on guys, it's an old fashioned motorsailer, not a vendee globe contender. If that's what the guy wants, why shouldn't he have it?

No. It was a low rated boat even in its heyday and considering what it was designed to be...or not to be!

Sorry.

PS I think the Wight was possibly worse.

 

[Topcat47]

Ok I give in, it's a Brick ****house. I've seen them around but never actually sailed one. I've "sailed" a couple of old motorsailers and they weren't noted for being Sparkling. I suppose there had to be one that was noticeably worse than the rest.

 

[Seajet]

Ok I give in, it's a Brick ****house. I've seen them around but never actually sailed one. I've "sailed" a couple of old motorsailers and they weren't noted for being Sparkling. I suppose there had to be one that was noticeably worse than the rest.

Topcat47,

have a look at a Macwester out of the water - a quick look mind, as it'll make a sailor go blind - an exercise in wetted area and frontal resistance drag.

A chap I know has a Wight ketch, he was astounded by our rudder authority when we ghosted alongside at less than 1 knot; I formed the strong impression his large diesel did most of the work and fine control berthing was the department the fenders were in charge of !

 

[Nicholas123]

Got a mate coming over from Ireland to view a Macwester Seaforth.

I know nothing about these boats.

Anything he should be looking out for or general comments - good and bad much appreciated.

TIA

It's a motor sailer & they look like a good seaboat......ignore seajets derision his is a toy by comparison

 

[Seajet]

It's a motor sailer & they look like a good seaboat......ignore seajets derision his is a toy by comparison

Oh really ?!

Care to come for a spin on either boat in a stiff breeze ?

Here's one who won't be employing Nicholas123 as a Naval Architect just yet, though speaking of architects the Macwesters would have been very useful in the Mulberry Harbour project of WWII.

 

[Nicholas123]

Oh really ?!

Care to come for a spin on either boat in a stiff breeze ?

Here's one who won't be employing Nicholas123 as a Naval Architect just yet, though speaking of architects the Macwesters would have been very useful in the Mulberry Harbour project of WWII.

I would'nt have one because I love sailing first & foremost,still the original poster did'nt say his friend did'nt want one & know what he is doing......it looks like a stunning boat as motor sailers go.Check out this link http://essex.boatshed.com/macwester_seaforth-boat-146715.html
Your boat is not the ultimate boat seajet no matter how much you wax lyrical about it.It is all a matter of personal preference & we all have different priorities.

 

[Seajet]

I would'nt have one because I love sailing first & foremost,still the original poster did'nt say his friend did'nt want one & know what he is doing......it looks like a stunning boat as motor sailers go.Check out this link http://essex.boatshed.com/macwester_seaforth-boat-146715.html
Your boat is not the ultimate boat seajet no matter how much you wax lyrical about it.It is all a matter of personal preference & we all have different priorities.

I have never said the Anderson is the ultimate or perfect boat, I posted just today that such a thing can't be had for a billion pounds !

However there are good and bad examples of design and there are much better boats - even when being honest enough to call themselves motorsailers - than the Macwesters which weren't so much built as congealed.

As for heavy weather or indeed any other type of sailing, you are sincerely welcome for a spin next season, with a bit of luck my chum in his Macwester Wight may be out at the same time, how many circles around it would you like, while we're making a cup of tea in a comfy interior ?!

 

[LittleSister]

Like an earlier poster, a friend has a Macwester Wight. (I am not clear how different that is to a Seaforth.) He is VERY happy with it.

It is certainly very comfy and spacious inside compared to some of its competitors. Performance isn't this friend's thing, but he does do a lot of sailing in it.

I believe that with the previous owners it cruised the Med for some years, before being sailed back. So clearly it's a very practical boat, that gets a lot more use than many, how shall I say, esteemed craft of a more performance oriented bent.