Look what came thro' the Beaucette entrance

AndieMac said:
Thanks for posting the pics Piers, I’m sure for the skipper, the rocks looked even closer than from our angle, leaving his stb fenders down until well clear of the entrance.
What sort of wind speeds and sea conditions are considered not safe for transiting the entrance?
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The real issue is swell, caused by NE to SE winds. The swell cuts across the entrance at an angle which can pick you up and swivel you away from pointing through the entrance, quoite apart from dipping your stern closer to the sill.

If there's any more than a F3 from those directions, it's a no-go for me.
 
AndieMac said:
I’d not seen the enclosed type of fin before, obviously built for very serious cruising.
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Yeah, definitely not something you can see every day, but a standard feature in CHs.
Below is the last of their 65', as another example.
Worth noting also the massive azipod propulsion. Eat your heart out, IPS! :p
Btw, the orange thing on the f/b is an Ovatek rigid life raft, akin to those you can see on commercial ships.
Oh, and the whole vessel was designed to self-right from a full turtle in less than 6 seconds... :eek:

PS: with apologies to Piers for the o/t
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Piers said:
The swell cuts across the entrance at an angle which can pick you up and swivel you away from pointing through the entrance, quoite apart from dipping your stern closer to the sill.
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Sounds scary, also because it's easy to guess that thruster(s) would be as useful as a chocolate teapot, and the only way to fight that is by hammering the throttles. I'd rather see someone else trying that with their boat, that's for sure! :rolleyes:
 
I wonder why they chose Beaucette and not St Sampson. Maybe the tide window at St Sampson was insufficient to allow a full refuel. It would be interesting to know what price they negotiated at Beaucette, I know when I’ve asked in the past their price was way above St Sampson.

Is the restaurant open yet?
 
longjohnsilver said:
I wonder why they chose Beaucette and not St Sampson. Maybe the tide window at St Sampson was insufficient to allow a full refuel. It would be interesting to know what price they negotiated at Beaucette, I know when I’ve asked in the past their price was way above St Sampson.

Is the restaurant open yet?
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It's a question I'd ask as well. The solution would have been to go to the commercial quay in St Peter Potrt which is where superyachts go to refuel, one last year taking 5 days to refuel from an endless train of Rubis tankers.
 
MapisM said:
Yeah, definitely not something you can see every day, but a standard feature in CHs.
Below is the last of their 65', as another example.
Worth noting also the massive azipod propulsion. Eat your heart out, IPS! :p
Btw, the orange thing on the f/b is an Ovatek rigid life raft, akin to those you can see on commercial ships.
Oh, and the whole vessel was designed to self-right from a full turtle in less than 6 seconds... :eek:

PS: with apologies to Piers for the o/t
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Yes, very commercial in many ways, makes similar sized Nordhavn’s look a bit lightweight, in the underwater department
 
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MapisM said:
PS: I just noticed after posting the pic another weird detail, i.e. the inward spinning props. :confused:
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I agree with you generally. But inward spinning props are a long-established thing, for those who rate (i) the ability to run in straight ahead on one engine with less rudder than outward spinning props would require as more important than (ii) the manoeuvrability that outward spinning props give you.
 
Whitelighter said:
Is there a website for capehorn? Can’t find a builders website on the net at all
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CH brand was sold by the founder years ago, and since then I don't think any others were ever built.
During their roaring years, they used a few different yards, but the best boats were built by this one.
You may try to get in touch with them, maybe they still have the drawings of that 65' in their files and they wouldn't mind building one for you...
Now, that would be an epic build thread indeed! :encouragement:
 
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jfm said:
inward spinning props are a long-established thing, for those who rate...
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Yup J, I get that.
Also because maneuverability in that sort of vessels is usually granted by uber sized hydraulic thrusters.
But afaik, inward spinning props are also a tad less efficient, because even at D speed the water flow under the hull is slightly diagonal, going outward from the bow to the stern. And this allows outward spinning props to grab water better, so to speak.

Don't ask me the hydrodynamics/physics behind that, though.
I just half remember to have read about this in PBB magazine years ago.
Anyway, since range is usually another big factor with these vessels, that's another component to consider, together with your (i) and (ii).
 
Ah ok thanks for the “diagonal flow” info. Every day is school day. I think I’ll stick to outward spinning props though :D.
 
Yup, that's a no brainer for "normal" boats like ours. :encouragement:

But just for the records, there is another exception I'm aware of where inward spinning props are often preferred, and it's with extremely fast speedboats.
In these boats, even with staggered engines allowing for a very close placement of the outdrives, inward spinning props are slightly better in rough conditions (well, as far as rough goes, to still allow 3 digits speed...), because the boat tracking is less sensitive to the odd split seconds when only one prop is grabbing the water. Totally irrelevant for boats like the Peer Gynt in this thread, of course...
 
It looks like these Turkish boats sold like hot cakes!
A sistership of the one posted by Piers arrived down here today...
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AndieMac said:
Is that your DP in the distance off the bow of the pictured boat?
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Yup, well spotted, that's our summer location. The floating dock allows us to use the fixed passerelle, that grants a fantastic accessibility straight into the cockpit, not only for ourselves, but also for our eldest friends. :encouragement:
We will move to the previous spot along the main dock towards the end of the summer, just for better protection vs. winter storms.
 
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