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I have a long range motor boat 13mtr with a range of 4000 miles now that i am over 70 years i should like to exchange it for a smaller motor boat say under 28mtrs anyone out there who might be interested.
This a steel vessel with all the requirments to cruise the med or cross the atlantic it is complete with plotters radar and all navagation reouirments.
 
CV

I am slightly confused. Are you looking to go from 13 to 28 metres , or is that a typo?

Can you post some pictures of your present boat please ?
 
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Seek and ye shall find.

Tom
 
castlevar said:
Hi tom noticed your boat trawler yacht our previous boat was a similar type a trader we fitted a set of stopper floppers i have a spare set in the garage if you would like you can have them f.o.c
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Goeff

Thats very kind of you, I have never used or for that matter been on a boat with Flopper stoppers on.

I will send you a PM with my email address t discuss if possible.

Tom
 
Philiz said:
I'm intrigued, what the chuff are flopper stoppers/stopper floppers? Sounds like something off Bill and Ben the flowerpot men.
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You may or may not have noticed the way that Little Ship responded to the attentions of Kwaka's wash the other weekend. Bless her little cotton socks, but the lack of a decent depth of keel was evident & the poor dear rolled like a pig.

"Flopper stoppers" are a form of stabiliser that act like the keel of a proper boat (:D) and reduce the roll when aflicted with wash or rollers abeam when at anchor or moored. I suspect your boat, being a relative lightweight, is slightly less affected by wash. Provident will have little problem being both a good weight & long keeled. Sea Rush is a little lighter, but has only little keels & consequently is only marginally better than LS.
 
Philiz said:
I'm intrigued, what the chuff are flopper stoppers/stopper floppers? Sounds like something off Bill and Ben the flowerpot men.
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Flobble lob said Bill........ your drunk said weed.

Phil, they go over the side of the boat and reduce the roll whilst at anchor by creating a resistance in the water on the uproll side.

Bless her little cotton socks, but the lack of a decent depth of keel was evident & the poor dear rolled like a pig.

Cheek of it, he called LS a pig. Git :P

Tom
 
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LittleShip said:
Flobble lob said Bill........ your drunk said weed.
Phil, they go over the side of the boat and reduce the roll whilst at anchor by creating a resistance in the water on the uproll side.
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Ah right. It strikes me they'll have to be quite a size to do that, so where do yer put em when they're not in the oggin? Maybe they're inflatable?

LittleShip said:
Cheek of it, he called LS a pig. Git :P
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No, be fair. He said she was like a pig :D
 
LittleShip said:
Flobble lob said Bill........ your drunk said weed.

Phil, they go over the side of the boat and reduce the roll whilst at anchor by creating a resistance in the water on the uproll side.

Bless her little cotton socks, but the lack of a decent depth of keel was evident & the poor dear rolled like a pig.

Cheek of it, he called LS a pig. Git :P

Tom
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Ahh, she'll be as right as rain, once you have the dingly-dangly bits over the side (other than the fishing rods that is) - whereas I shall doubtless continue to roll to Kwaka's attacks! :D
 
Searush said:
I suspect your boat, being a relative lightweight, is slightly less affected by wash. Provident will have little problem being both a good weight & long keeled. Sea Rush is a little lighter, but has only little keels & consequently is only marginally better than LS.
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We do suffer quite a bit, but I suspect most mobos of the type are likely to.

Providence isn't long keeled but she is 18 tons, mind you I managed to rock her on Sunday when we passed. Now before anyone starts calling me, he's a mate, he likes it! :)
 
One key to successful long-distance passagemaking is ensuring maximum comfort and safety of the crew. A factor that contributes to fatigue on long rides is excessive motion. Granted, sometimes heavy seas make some level of pitch and roll unavoidable, but both hull design and specialized systems can minimize the motion.

Roll stabilization is now quite common on full-displacement trawlers, but there are two different ways to accomplish the task — active-fin stabilizers and paravanes. The former are wing-like appendages attached to the hull below the waterline and they move like the control surfaces of an airplane to minimize roll. Paravanes are also wing-like but they are not part of the boat’s structure and are instead towed alongside the boat, below the surface of the water.

Milt Baker’s Nordhavn 47, Bluewater, can quiet the rock and roll in two ways. The first line of defense is the active fin stabilization system from Naiad, which was installed on the boat before delivery. The second anti-roll system aboard Bluewater is the paravane system that relies only on a couple of electric winches and the practiced deployment and recovery techniques that he and his wife Judy use.

Paravanes look complicated, with all of the poles and rigging installed, but actually are quite simple. The system involves two “flying fish” made out of metal and weighing about 40 pounds each, for a boat of Bluewater’s size. These are hung from outrigger poles about 15 feet below the surface of the water, well outboard of Bluewater’s midships rail.
As the boat moves through the water, paravanes resist being pulled up through the water by the rolling movements of the boat. Since one is deployed on each side of the vessel, rolling motions are damped, often by as much as 60 percent of what an active fin-stabilization system can achieve.

Bernie
 
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Philiz said:
Ah right. It strikes me they'll have to be quite a size to do that, so where do yer put em when they're not in the oggin?
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By the time Little Ship (or similar vessels) stow floppers or paravanes + beaching legs, drogues etc etc to make said vessels totally fit for sea and have 'go anywhere' capabilities the decks would be chocka!

Easiest method to balance a boat and stop rolling about would be to have dual fun boxes.

Equally large and situated one to port and one to starboard.
Obviously kept well stocked and full to the brim at all times.

As stocks do get depleted from time to time, strict and diligent seamanship must be maintained.
IE, carefull and regular weather checks plus stock must be drawn from each cabinet evenly.

As depletion approaches 50% replenishement must be sourced.
This entails further concentrated seamanship such as passage planning - to coincide with Suppliers special offers and Tesco's Sunday opening hours.

This is much a more pleasant and convenient way of combating rolling than lobbing dirty great rudders over the side etc etc:)
 
Kawasaki said:
By the time Little Ship (or similar vessels) stow floppers or paravanes + beaching legs, drogues etc etc to make said vessels totally fit for sea and have 'go anywhere' capabilities the decks would be chocka!

Easiest method to balance a boat and stop rolling about would be to have dual fun boxes.:)
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I have to agree with you Kwacka, Your idea makes sense and is far more practical.; And by the time you get to 50% of your load balance, nobody will notice the rolling anyway:D:)
 
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