robyonfrome
Well-Known Member
Long Island Poole Harbour Protest Landing
Bit of a disappointing turn out for the demonstration, only 12 people bothered to come, but never mind it only takes one person to prove a point. The police turned up and spoke to everyone to make sure things stayed amicable, but they didn’’t take sides and we weren’’t asked to leave the Island. Attached is a letter I have written to the Crown Estate. Basically, the Rempstone estate is claiming it owns land that maybe it doesn’’t, if the Crown have got their facts right, we shall have to wait and see.
My only reservation is, that If I succeed in stopping the Rempstone Estate from preventing people from landing, what effect will it have on the island? There is no doubt that a small minority of people do abuse it, such as lighting fires in the woods, that could get out of control; rubbish left on the beach, people letting their dogs run free where birds are nesting, (including me I’’m afraid, with regard to my Golden Retriever - on the occasion I was confronted by the grounds man, whilst he distracted me,) she was just a foot or so off the beach, where oyster catchers where nesting. There is a big wildlife issue here which needs some consideration. However, other nature reserves such as Arne and Brownsea Island manage to combine people and wildlife successfully and there are many miles of shoreline where people never land and wildlife has a free rein. The Rempstone estate are trying to sell the island for allegedly 1m to 5m, and are probably concerned that no one is going to pay that, if people can still walk around on their private beach. Rempstone have paid out thousands for a barge for a grounds man to stay on and a high tech amphibious rib to get to the shore. Would they really pay all that out to look after the wildlife, when people have been enjoying using the island for some 30-40 years and the wildlife is still thriving?
A compromise could be to put in place, a substantial but discreet fence running the length of the beach on the shore line with polite signs saying ““please keep out - birds nesting”” and ““fire risk””. Another idea would be to set up a ““friends of the island”” group that could pick up the occasional rubbish. That way a large number of people could continue to enjoy the shoreline, whilst keeping them away from the centre of the island, rather than the island only being available to a handful of ““chosen”” people.
So, nothing has been finally resolved yet and it may take many more people to voice their objections before any notice is taken and consideration given to the continued use of the island, by caring members of the general public. I will continue to look into our rights and let you know my findings in due course.
Letter to The Crown Estate
Dear Mr Charles Green
Long Island Poole Harbour
Further to your last correspondence to me relating to the above on the 12 June.
The Rempstone Estates representative on the Island showed me the Land Registry Map in which it is coloured in, that their land extends to the very end of the sand bar. This line they indicate is approximately where I consider the low water springs to be, as I have been to the Island many times I feel I am qualified to confirm that. I did take photos last night (attached) at 18.00hrs on June 12 which is a half hour off high water of 2m above chart datum, which should be somewhere around the official 1.94m for mean high water. I would ask you to take a look at these photos then compare them with the Land Registry map, you will see from the photos that the high water line is only about six foot or so away from the start of land.
As you stated in your last correspondence to me that the Crown Estate owns the area between the mean high and mean low water marks you will no doubt note the considerable difference in which they say they own.
Please can you confirm who is right here, do The Crown Estate just own what is shown on the Land Registry map which appears to be the low water springs mark or do you own up to the mean high water mark as approximately indicated in my photos.
I would be extremely grateful if you could solve this confusion and please let me know at your earliest convenience.
Bit of a disappointing turn out for the demonstration, only 12 people bothered to come, but never mind it only takes one person to prove a point. The police turned up and spoke to everyone to make sure things stayed amicable, but they didn’’t take sides and we weren’’t asked to leave the Island. Attached is a letter I have written to the Crown Estate. Basically, the Rempstone estate is claiming it owns land that maybe it doesn’’t, if the Crown have got their facts right, we shall have to wait and see.
My only reservation is, that If I succeed in stopping the Rempstone Estate from preventing people from landing, what effect will it have on the island? There is no doubt that a small minority of people do abuse it, such as lighting fires in the woods, that could get out of control; rubbish left on the beach, people letting their dogs run free where birds are nesting, (including me I’’m afraid, with regard to my Golden Retriever - on the occasion I was confronted by the grounds man, whilst he distracted me,) she was just a foot or so off the beach, where oyster catchers where nesting. There is a big wildlife issue here which needs some consideration. However, other nature reserves such as Arne and Brownsea Island manage to combine people and wildlife successfully and there are many miles of shoreline where people never land and wildlife has a free rein. The Rempstone estate are trying to sell the island for allegedly 1m to 5m, and are probably concerned that no one is going to pay that, if people can still walk around on their private beach. Rempstone have paid out thousands for a barge for a grounds man to stay on and a high tech amphibious rib to get to the shore. Would they really pay all that out to look after the wildlife, when people have been enjoying using the island for some 30-40 years and the wildlife is still thriving?
A compromise could be to put in place, a substantial but discreet fence running the length of the beach on the shore line with polite signs saying ““please keep out - birds nesting”” and ““fire risk””. Another idea would be to set up a ““friends of the island”” group that could pick up the occasional rubbish. That way a large number of people could continue to enjoy the shoreline, whilst keeping them away from the centre of the island, rather than the island only being available to a handful of ““chosen”” people.
So, nothing has been finally resolved yet and it may take many more people to voice their objections before any notice is taken and consideration given to the continued use of the island, by caring members of the general public. I will continue to look into our rights and let you know my findings in due course.
Letter to The Crown Estate
Dear Mr Charles Green
Long Island Poole Harbour
Further to your last correspondence to me relating to the above on the 12 June.
The Rempstone Estates representative on the Island showed me the Land Registry Map in which it is coloured in, that their land extends to the very end of the sand bar. This line they indicate is approximately where I consider the low water springs to be, as I have been to the Island many times I feel I am qualified to confirm that. I did take photos last night (attached) at 18.00hrs on June 12 which is a half hour off high water of 2m above chart datum, which should be somewhere around the official 1.94m for mean high water. I would ask you to take a look at these photos then compare them with the Land Registry map, you will see from the photos that the high water line is only about six foot or so away from the start of land.
As you stated in your last correspondence to me that the Crown Estate owns the area between the mean high and mean low water marks you will no doubt note the considerable difference in which they say they own.
Please can you confirm who is right here, do The Crown Estate just own what is shown on the Land Registry map which appears to be the low water springs mark or do you own up to the mean high water mark as approximately indicated in my photos.
I would be extremely grateful if you could solve this confusion and please let me know at your earliest convenience.
