Live Debate?: How young is too young and does age matter?

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duncan_m

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I was wondering if anyone would be interested in taking part in a live debate on the topic of young sailors attempting trans-atlantic and world non-stop and stopping cruises.

Ideal but not essential, you should have a relevant perspective:
-You are a young sailor
-You are the parent of a young sailor
-You are an instructor
-You have been on a round the world trip cruising/non-stop
-You have a background in child psychology
 
djbreeze said:
How would you facilitate it?
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Online and moderated. Ideally you have a computer, headphones, a microphone even better a webcam, if no microphone or webcam a normal traditional phone line is fine. For people not in the actual live discussion they'll be able to add questions through chat, all broadcast live online and recorded for later viewing.
 
duncan_m said:
Ideal but not essential, you should have a relevant perspective:
-You are a young sailor
-You are the parent of a young sailor
-You are an instructor
-You have been on a round the world trip cruising/non-stop
-You have a background in child psychology
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I fear you will not find someone fulfilling all of these criteria.
 
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qualifications approach...

I think your qualifications approach is fundamentally flawed. You are going to rule out the most qualified people to include in the theoretical guise of seeking the "most qualified".

Perhaps an afternoon of academic study is in order. You could review Mr. Tetlock's studies on the "Accuracy" of Expert Opinions before you go and propose a list of qualifiers.
www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/12/05/051205crbo_books1

By the list of criteria, you are indeed, ruling out a possible vast majority of the people most qualified to discuss the subject.

If you want to prejudge the result, and preselect the conclusion - you have possibly made a good start. But it's not a qualification list based on science...

--jerry
 
dvideohd said:
I think your qualifications approach is fundamentally flawed. You are going to rule out the most qualified people to include in the theoretical guise of seeking the "most qualified".

Perhaps an afternoon of academic study is in order. You could review Mr. Tetlock's studies on the "Accuracy" of Expert Opinions before you go and propose a list of qualifiers.
www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/12/05/051205crbo_books1

By the list of criteria, you are indeed, ruling out a possible vast majority of the people most qualified to discuss the subject.

If you want to prejudge the result, and preselect the conclusion - you have possibly made a good start. But it's not a qualification list based on science...

--jerry
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See what you mean, there wouldn't be much debate amongst this group would there?
 
dvideohd said:
I think your qualifications approach is fundamentally flawed. You are going to rule out the most qualified people to include in the theoretical guise of seeking the "most qualified".

Perhaps an afternoon of academic study is in order. You could review Mr. Tetlock's studies on the "Accuracy" of Expert Opinions before you go and propose a list of qualifiers.
www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/12/05/051205crbo_books1

By the list of criteria, you are indeed, ruling out a possible vast majority of the people most qualified to discuss the subject.

If you want to prejudge the result, and preselect the conclusion - you have possibly made a good start. But it's not a qualification list based on science...

--jerry
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Agreed. I have no aim here beyond a lively discussion, the background is suggested and not essential, if you are interested then get involved.
 
It's an interesting point though, the answer will be that it's not age even in my late teens I was much younger than some of these people who would like to do stupid thngs.

I'll kick off the traditional tangent to the question that's asked by saying;

1 is too young.
 
xxyyzz said:
It's an interesting point though, the answer will be that it's not age even in my late teens I was much younger than some of these people who would like to do stupid thngs.

I'll kick off the traditional tangent to the question that's asked by saying;

1 is too young.
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Don't want to seem overly focussed but looking for participants not an actual debate in thread which could go on for many many pages, hence a real live debate..
 
Well there's no law that says thou shalt not put to sea on thine own before thou reachest the age of X that I know of, so if it were up to me to decide I'd look at physical capability, mental toughness, begs the question how do you measure those qualities. I'd also want to have a good look at the parents to try to get an idea how much pressure they might be putting on the child. Are we assuming that the definition of solo is not having someone follow you in a support vessel?
 
duncan_m said:
Don't want to seem overly focussed but looking for participants not an actual debate in thread which could go on for many many pages, hence a real live debate..
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That's why the tangent is traditional, you're asking for loons.

The people who do these things are unusual, and so it depends on their personal nature, it could be as right to do it at one as it is to do it at thirty.

2 is too young as well; Perhaps a process of elimination will help?
 
Beadle said:
I don't really see what there is to debate.

Whether someone is too young to sail is a decision they and/or their parents should take.

No-one elses business.
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I'm not convinced, there's surely some kids who need protecting from pushy parents who are really in it for themselves?
 
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