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Most of you will know that we've taken delivery of our new Princess 67.
Everything at the moment is great but SWMBO and I sat down after the party last weekend and put our feet up.
What the main saloon needs is some cosy lighting.
Any thoughts?
We quite like the idea of a few table style lamps but it would be nice to have them running off the 24v circuits.
Or we could go down the route that Jimmy was thinking with dimmers but I think we'd prefer separate lamps - perhaps on the shelf behind the seating.

Any ideas?
 
The world is your oyster, as you can get 24v bulbs to fit normal domestic 240v table lamps. I've only seen them of the small diameter screw in type, but other bulb sizes may be available. Even if they're not, it still leaves you a very wide choice.

Lighting is even more important on a boat than in a home. We have three table lamps, and dimmers on the saloon lights, so there is an ambient background light and then pools of light from the table lamps.

Also, IMO you need dimmers on the cockpit lights, otherwise its too bright sitting out into the early hours on balmy summer evenings
 
Something like this? It has a standard 40W/24V with E27 screw bulb.
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Thanks Nick - I didnt realise that you could get 24v bulbs to fit a standard 240v unit.
I'll have a look.

I havent looked at the Princess lights yet but I thought that they wouldnt work with a dimmer. Maybe I'll be corrected here. Maybe Jimmy's idea of fitting dimmers is a good way to go as well.
 
Morning Mike

We had the same thought the other evening as well. For us I think the initial solution is going to be to add dimmers (I'll have more news on this on Monday, but it does look like we can get them at a good price) and also to add some concealed mood lighting along the headrail of the venetian blinds in the saloon. I'm just waiting for a cost on this from Landau.

We could also add some small table lights but I am loathe to start cutting holes in the nice new joinery just yet!

Cheers
Jimmy
 
Yes, we have a combination of dimming lights, rope lights and lamps, that give the ability to make it nice and cosy. Took this some time ago to try and show the balance of lights, but its not really that good a photo:

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Rick
 
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Most of you will know that we've taken delivery of our new Princess 67.
Everything at the moment is great but SWMBO and I sat down after the party last weekend and put our feet up.
What the main saloon needs is some cosy lighting.
Any thoughts?


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Apart from the fact your boats Head is more luxurious than my entire boat, no.

Don't be so fussy! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

We currently have auto dimming lights . We turn them all on at dusk, and they get dimmer and dimmer automatically, until we go to bed, and they glow like nightlights for a while before finally going out. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

The auto dim feature seems to place a lot of strain on the batteries though, as we always have to charge them afterwards /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Mike, we had exactly the same thougts with our P67. The saloon really needs softer and lower lighting than the spots provide. We were going to buy a really stylish table lamp and locate it on the forward starboard corner of the shelf behind the seating as from memory the other corner has aircon ducting.
 
I think Princess always fit a stabilised DC supply (connected to the battery) to run the lighting, so if you add more lighting you will need check if there is sufficient capacity in the stabiliser to drive more lamps. On my P45 it is a 12 amp stabiliser.

The reason for the stabiliser is that the battery voltage can be up to 30v on full charge or down to under 24v if on high load.
You could run straight off the battery but 24v halogens don't like the overvoltage as it shortens their life and you will also see a change in brightness whenever something else is switched on without a stabiliser.

I've fitted a dc:dc dimmer on the main cabin lights and 240v duralight rope under the pelmet rails as well as a 240v table lamp with good effect.

Nick
 
Any good disco supplier should be able to sort you out, you could get a glitter ball at the same time!

I'm afraid I copped out on this one slightly, and just asked Landau for a supply/fit cost for the whole lot. Still waiting for the answer...

Cheers
Jimmy
 
Hi Nick

No, we live on the outskirts of Brighton, and the boat is in Gosport. (I realise that my profile was slightly out of date so I have updated this).

Cheers
Jimmy
 
Urgh, dont count on it Jimmy. Unknown to me, our volt stabiliser was faulty when boat was new. It blew lots of 24v bulbs after praps 2-3 hours. I tried xenons, but they blew too. I then fitted lots of 28v bulbs and they were fine. THEN I discovered the stabiliser, and found it was fualty, so Fairline gave me a new one under warranty, and everything has been fine since, except of course I had to chuck out all the 28v bulbs cos they were too dim on 24v. I think the colour of the light is nicer from normal halogens than xenons, but that's just imho. So I'd always try to fit/spec a stabilised 24v lighting system
 
I changed all the bulbs in our old Sealine over to 28v and I cant remember a single one blowing.
Only on the Princess for two nights and one of the bedside lights blew so I'm definately going to try some 28v ones. Maybe they will look a bit dim - we didnt think so on the Sealine.
 
Yup, ours never blew when we put 28v in, but they did look gloomily dim - I hated them!

Why not try putting multimeter probes into the p67 light fitting, when the batt charger is on or the engines running, and see if the bulbs are getting a regulated 24v or a frying 28v?
 
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