Lift, Scrub and Anodes?

[nickjh]

Hi,

At this time of year, where is the cheapest place to get a lift, scrub and replace my anodes? I don't really want to leave her out the water as i am having some great days out still. I am moored at Shamrock Quay, Southampton.

Is is necessary to keep the boat out for a few weeks every year to "dry" out?

Thanks

Nick

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[studgies]

My plan is only to take my boat out for a month or so every other year, we are on a drying mooring so can do the anodes at the mooring and fouling is not so much of an issue.

Drivers marine just up river do a lift and scrub deal, they are just before northam bridge next to the the scrap yard. Itchen marine are quite reasonable from what I have been told but never used them.

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[PaulF]

Hi,
I need a lift and scub off too! Well the boat does. Have just spoken to Jill Williams at Drivers. Yard No is 02380-233302.

Was just quoted £70+ VAT for lift and blast off for a 28footer so have booked for Friday pm.

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[tcm]

Re: drying out

for a plastic boat the drying out can't really be too necessary can it? I mean, immediately when back in, it's wet again. So unless the boat is made of sponge, it's the blimmin same as it was. Big boats in med stay in all the time, altho i spose partly cos it costs a fortune ashore and if you want to go back to the same mooring you have to pay for that as well. Easier to keep boat clean and dry inside ashore i spose.

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[studgies]

Paul, get yourself a bargain, hang off the side and get yourself a wash at the same time! The lads at drivers are a good lot, if a little disorganised at times.

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[ChrisKaye]

Hi Nick
I'm at Shamrock Quay too, been on the hard since I purchased the boat back in August. Bloomin' expensive. Drivers has been recommeded to me by others. Hopefully I will be away from there in the next few weeks once the anti-foul is finished

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[Duncan_Hamble]

Re: drying out

Gelcoat and laminate is slightly porous - on a microscopic scale. It will be beneficial to the laminate and gelcoat for the boat to be ashore for a few months each winter.
However, not strictly necessary.
I would prefer to use the boat over the winter and keep fingers crossed re Osmosis.

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[PaulF]

God, do I really smell so bad you can smell me half a mile down river?, maybe that is why some paint might be falling off? Maybe take up your suggestion and get a free shower Friday, then also I'll invest in a good wash sometime in 05 when it's a bit warmer. Meanwhile keep yer distance!

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[studgies]

he he

I just re read my post and it sounded a bit nasty so soz. But now you mention it we do get an odd wiff every now and then when sitting out on the balcony! A quick rinse thi sweek followed by frequent (monthly) applications of fabreeze should sort you out, well it works for me!

I needed a double dose of fabreeze on Saturday night after spending 3 hours in the Itchen mud! Ick, poo, I was not designed for that sort of work!

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[PaulF]

So the mud wallowing was sucessful eh?. bit o' mud good for you I am sure.
Cheers, P

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[studgies]

So far it looks that way, the leg is 90% back on, just need to connect up the gear cable and tighten everything up then test. All I can say is it better bloody work! It has been an education doing all this work, some times interesting/fun, other times painful and expensive and other times just plain soul destroying! In the long run I guess it will have saved us a fortune but if you asked me 2 weeks ago I would probubly have said do not ever try it yourself! It has made re upholstering the cockpit feel like a piece of cake!

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[PaulF]

One other advantage of doing it yourself is that you know it has been done. Not always the case with some that purport to be 'professional'. Sad though that may be.

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[studgies]

indeed, and I can vouch for the fact that every single bloody bearing has been replaced! Yet another axample of OTT Volvo prices, every bearing was sourced at a fraction of the Price VP wanted, this was for parts with exactly the same part numbers!

As for the mud bath, well I am as smooth and soft as a babys bottom now )

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[PaulF]

Yes, not surprised at bearing and seal costs, local suppliers always competitive, I use Blue Diamond locally who have always been most helpful.
Glad you pleased with your complexion. No further comment!

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[Planty]

I've just called Shamrock in response to MDL "offer" on lift & scrub for my F43, with "free" storage, it's an absolute snip at £495.40 if one takes advantage of the 10% off for annual MDL mooring status.

Needless to say I've left a message for Drivers Yard to give me a call back with a price!!

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[studgies]

indeedy, I used solent bearings, they were very helpful and seemed to know what they were talking about which is good!

Do you think I could sell some itchen mud to the body shop or Lush??

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[studgies]

Yup, I'd give drivers a go!

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[Medskipper]

Re: drying out

Can't agree with that TCM!

It is important that the hull of a vessel is dried out occassionaly! perhaps not every year, particularly if its kept in salty water, thats because salt water does not penetrate the gel coat as quickly as fresh water. Any boat kept in fresh water over a long period of time will need to dry out or the capillary action of water will penetrate the gel, soak the glass matting and then go rotten! this is known as osmosis! if there are lumps or blisters on the hull, just press one with a screwdriver and if it bursts out with liquid, you have osmosis! be careful the liquid does not get in your eyes because it is acid!
Even if the boat is in salt water it is best to dry the hull for at least three months every couple of years or so, this will prevent osmosis and give the hull a longer life. Anti foul paint does not stop osmosis as many people tend to think!

Regards Barry




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[jfm]

Re: drying out

I think that's all rubbish Barry. If osmosis chemists know better I'll shut up, but I cant see how the ratre at which moisture soaks out of GRP can be much faster than the rate it soaks in, so if a boat is in water say 9months slowly soaking water in, the amount of that water that will dry out in 3 months ashore will be tiny. So then you dump the boat back in the water in the spring and the water soak-in process will carry on nearly where it left off, surely?

Also with new ish boats and isopthalic resin osmosis is pretty much a thing of the past

Is your ! key a bit jammed?

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[miket]

I used to moor at SQ and always found them very reasonable, although summer bargains are usually better as lots wants to be out during the winter.
With a big petrol engine, make sure you don't spend more in petrol getting to a cheaper place than the saving you make on the job!

Why do you need to come out? Surely you can get to the o/drive anodes with the leg lifted. Also you should be able to scrub, yourself (note commer!), by lifting leg and stopping at the watermark on a beach and doing it yourself?

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