dgadee
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I have a couple of these which were lying about but no instructions. Lewmar tell me they can't find any info on how to use them since the shackles haven't been sold since 2014. Any idea how to run a rope through them?
Lewmar Syncro C-snap shackles?
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bignick
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I’ll take a pic with a fine line installed in one. so you can see the routing. If you look inside , beneath the blue thumb clip, there’s a little spike which digs into the rope to secure it. That shows you which way the rope must go around it.
bignick
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like this..
dgadee
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Good stuff. You should be writing a knots book - very clear!
Spirit (of Glenans)
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If I'm not mistaken, the piece of hardware in this post is totally different to that in the OP, which seems to depict a variation on the "clam cleat".
In the OP it looks like the rope should be routed straight through from top to bottom, with the load being located at the top of the picture. When the two outer arms are pulled outwards the rope is free to run in either direction. When they are squeezed inwards the two purple elements lying at a 30° angle at the bottom of the article grip the rope and stop it from running out. To quickly release, jerk the rope upwards against the purple "saddle" in the middle of the item.
dgadee
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No, it's the same shackle. Bignick is correct.
You can still buy them, it seems. Very cheaply from some sources.
You can still buy them, it seems. Very cheaply from some sources.
Spirit (of Glenans)
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Oh, I see it now. The OP shows them in pairs in their original packaging. I took them to be some kind of clam cleat in that setting.
Spirit (of Glenans)
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So now I see one of the threaded onto the end of a piece of rope, what happens next?
Praxinoscope
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It seems remarkable to me that Lewmar can’t ‘find’ any information about one of their products just 8 years after they stopped listing them, or is just another case of a company that has taken its customer relations model from Basil Fawlty?
bignick
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I purchased some of these off eBay last year and sent an email to Lewmar customer support. I got the following response..
I am sorry to say that we are unable to find any instructions for these snap shackles, as parts have long since been obsolete, and last sold in 2014, if I remember the line goes in through the bottom, then around the inner piece then back down, there is a bard in there that hooks into the line.
i hadn’t spotted the small bard (spike) inside originally, but once I knew it was there it was self explanatory which way around the central plastic peg the rope must go. Tension on the line tightens the bitter end against the spike; it’s much more secure than it first appears, but you do have to use the line diameter specified on the packet. I put a short whipping on the line at the bitter end and trim it off just where it exits the shackle.
They seem pretty good so far, but i think they have largely been superseded by soft shackles. The advantage is they can be released quickly under a light load.
I am sorry to say that we are unable to find any instructions for these snap shackles, as parts have long since been obsolete, and last sold in 2014, if I remember the line goes in through the bottom, then around the inner piece then back down, there is a bard in there that hooks into the line.
i hadn’t spotted the small bard (spike) inside originally, but once I knew it was there it was self explanatory which way around the central plastic peg the rope must go. Tension on the line tightens the bitter end against the spike; it’s much more secure than it first appears, but you do have to use the line diameter specified on the packet. I put a short whipping on the line at the bitter end and trim it off just where it exits the shackle.
They seem pretty good so far, but i think they have largely been superseded by soft shackles. The advantage is they can be released quickly under a light load.
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bignick
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That’s it, they’re attached. You clip them onto stuff, just like you would if you had spliced a stainless snap shackle on to the end of your line. Would you like some pictures?
I got them for attaching lightweight spinnaker sheets which they seem fine for.
They would also be good for fender lines, if you were sailing with people who have trouble with knots.
Spirit (of Glenans)
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Perhaps "bard" is a poetic typo of the word "barb"?
Spirit (of Glenans)
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That makes sense.That’s it, they’re attached. You clip them onto stuff, just like you would if you had spliced a stainless snap shackle on to the end of your line. Would you like some pictures?
I got them for attaching lightweight spinnaker sheets which they seem fine for.
They would also be good for fender lines, if you were sailing with people who have trouble with knots.
bignick
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I see what you did there…
I just assumed it was an old nautical term that I hadn’t heard of, but now I’m wondering if it was a typo.
dgadee
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Word for word, that is the reply I got the other day (Edit: 'bard' included).
I plan to use them for a spinnaker in light winds.
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bignick
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I’m now wondering if it should have said ‘Brad’ which can mean a small nail. At least that’s a term that I’ve heard before!
bignick
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After messing around taking photos, i just realised that what I thought was just a label on the packet actually contained the instructions. Doh!!!
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Daydream believer
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I thought that the loop on the top was for hanging on the display stand 