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Seagreen, thats a fantastic boat you have there. Can you tell us about her?

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Added to an edited post. And thanks for the compliment.

But a fuller story now.



Believed by past owners to have been built in 1860 at Restronguet, Fal estuary, either as a yacht built on oyster dredger lines of the period (see EJ March ‘Inshore craft of Britain in the days of sail and oar’ vol 1) , or converted shortly afterwards to a yacht. History is very vague here..
I’ve transcribed to notes left to me by her previous owner, Michael Wright.

A brief mention in “swatchways and little ships” on pp70, bottom paragraph;

“The Alert …… was to be met all over the east coast often in company with Cleone, a long lean black straight stemmed yawl about the same size, a perfect period piece of the 1860’s, usually sailed singlehanded by her bachelor owner, neither yacht having an engine in those days.”

Earliest entry into Lloyds register of Yachts was in 1911/12, owned by C.L Falwell.
1915 – (1921), owned by H. Magniac, sailing from Burnham on Crouch.
1927 – 1950, owned by Mr S. Kiver, out of Burnham on Crouch, Tucky Brown’s Yard.
1951 – 1955, owned by C.W. Ellerby, out of Burnham on Crouch.
1955 – 1957, owned by B. Lucas. She apparently spent long periods at anchor, at Wrabness on the Stour and later in the saltings at Manningtree. She was in quite a dilapidated state. Much kit missing and used by local children and others as a ‘floating playground’. She was involved in a collision with a larger vessel and had damage to her starboard deck and bulwark. She was recovered from the saltings and taken to Holbrook creek. Here, she fell over and filled with water (sunk) at least once.

1957. owner P.Kerridge , out of Burnham on Crouch.

1958 - 1979, owner H.Ballam. out of Woodbridge. She was transferred to Melton Dock where much of her missing kit, including the missing mizzen were found. Work was done by Melton Boat Yard between 1958 and 1963. Deck repairs and the Garboard strake replaced on one side. During one lift out, the lifting cradle fell, and broke off the stem head. Survey carried out for Mr H Ballam by Francis Jones and Partners 1974.

1979, owner Mr M J Wright. She had been in a run down condition for some years in a mud berth near Melton Quay. Following some emergency repairs, she was sailed to Southwold, thence to Beccles the following year where she was craned out and installed in Michael Wrights garden for a complete rebuild, starting 1980. The rebuild took some 12 years!
Cleone was relaunched completely restored alone by Michael Wright in 1992, and made her maiden voyage to France to feature at Brest ’92.

Substantially, during the rebuild, Michael raised the deck by two planks, giving her more space and headroom. The rudder, deck and coachroof were all replaced, yet apart from the garboard strake all hull planking is original, and some oak frames have been doubled, and replaced. All Concrete and scrap iron ballast was removed, frames and hog, and keelbolts checked and found in good order before the mixture was replaced. The interior joinery is all new, and new gear and suit of sails furnished. Michael also installed a Petter Mini Twin as her engine.

The Wrights moved west to Devon and Cleone was based in Dartmouth from 1992 and spent the next years cruising the West Country for probably the first time in the 130 years since she was built. Wintering for the last few years at Nash Holden’s yard at Old Mill creek.

May 2006, bought by me, Mac McDonald from M J Wright. Now based on the River Exe at Exmouth.

I replaced the Petter with a Beta 20hp diesel in June, and plan some minor cosmetic and internal refurbishments over this winter 2006/7, into 2007 and won't now go back in till April 08! I fitted a new Anchorman manual capstan on the foredeck. I have the original wrought iron and oak windlass, but the barrel of this is now very warn, and the size of it makes a real trip and injury hazard on the foredeck, so is being retired on the grounds of personal safety!

A host of other upgrades, mostly minor, mainly being cosmetic will follow. The cockpit sole is being raised to make it self draining, and easier to climb out of. This will free up space for a diesel tank under, which will allow the old tanks to come out of the cockpit lockers and provide vast stowage for sailbags of which I have many. All new electronics, etc. Oh, and a deck recaulk - did I mention that? Not looking forward to that one in the next few weeks.

I will be back afloat for April, even if I'm still doing the varnishing! I had hoped to get to Peel for the fest., but my summer is going to be too busy for very long voyages.
At least, thats what the SWMBO tells me!

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Thanks seagreen, you must be a fast typist!
Very interesting. She must have been really low before those two extra planks were added. She is a real sweetie, as indeed are all the boats on this post.
That gives me an idea.......many of you may know of TOME, or Tom Eckoff, who sadly passed away recently. He organised a meeting of Yachts from scuttlbutt for a cruise in company to Cherbourg. It might be fun if we Classic Boat lot met up in the summer. Of course many of us know each other from OGA and such like, and there is of course Breast 08...... . The great thing about posting pics of our boats is that we can reconise the boats, then meet the owners !
How about a post mid summer before a cruise. One could say roughly where one planned to go, and any one around on the way could post for a meet for mutual vessel apreciation!


Any thoughts on that one?
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

Do you know what name she was built as?

There is a possible match for a 30 foot boat built 1869 ?

Anymore gen ?

Brian
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

She was launched as Cleone and has always had the name. Far be it for me to muck about with that tradition. If anyone can add some early history fro her in her first 50 years, I'd be very interested.

Yes Seanick, it would be a good idea to have a CB Cruising schedule forum. Sadly, I had great plans for this summer but real life and work are going confine me to a week and some long weekends.

BTW, which of the two "Breast" festivals are you going to?

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Re: Lets see them re Cleone

There was a boat built called Emma, she was a 30 foot Dandy rigged, i.e. she had a mizzen, Falmouth Quay Punt, more likley than a Falmouth Working Boat. She did some odd dredging, before being sold to the Scilly Isles as a flower boat, then she disappears.

Brian
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

Cleone is now 35'6" and would have been about 33' or so when built. I've seen an image of a clinker version like her in EJ March's "small working craft of britain"(? think that's the title) and have had a good feedback on other likely sources for builders in the Fal area from the Cornwall County Archive, but I either get the work done, Or research her history. So that's going to be next winter's fun and games.

I suppose what's needed is a good delve into the archive of the local boat building families in the Feock (?so I'm told) area. I've not heard of any sister ships to Cleone, though I'm sure she was part of a nearly continuous build schedule for some yards at that time and that sister ships, or "same class" vessels must have been built.
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

Breast.....hope to go to Breast...although having just had out first child we are currently having a different type of Breast festival!!

Will see how it goes sailing with the nipper. Its a long way, and we may be better off bouncing around the Solent, where there never seams to be enough wind, or further west where there is always too much! The whole boats still under development, with no electrics or water sytems, so it also depends on me getting some stuff done too.

ps. nice forefoot!
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

Forefoot is backed up by cast iron ballast keel running the whole length of hull. I'd prefer it not to be so easily chafed by mooring chains though.

As for the children, had two, very glad they are now 7 and 9, and both going to be sailors, whether they want to or not.

Now, I usually get to sleep the whole night through. Usually.
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

There is no Cleone listed as a Falmouth Working Boat, as per the bible, The History of the Falmouth Working Boat by Alun Davies.
The chap who used to live next door was born in a Feock boatyard owned by his father.

Brian
 
Looks like you used Jim Brett for your boat transport like me. Jim is a smashing bloke who really knows his stuff and is very helpfull.
Alan
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

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That doesn't surprise me (as far as I know) as she was always used as a cruising yacht. Her scantlings are fairly "workmanlike" and not at all given a fine finish, so I surmise that she was started in build as a working boat, but finished and/or bought for cruising from the start. Also, though the previous owners have passed 1860 down as the build date, this could also be wrong.

Can you point me in the direction of people who might know more? It'd be very interesting.
 
Re: Lets see them re Cleone

Do you have a picture out of the water showing her lines ?

She would have been built for some one, Emma was built by 'Foreman' Ferris and Frank Hitchins for J Blight from our village. She would basically have been built on the beach to the owners spec, so though lines are silimilar, boats differ. The boat yard would have been a shed above the beach.
A lot of Falmouth boats after a few years changed hands moved away and were converted to yachts.


I will sort you out some contact details.

Brian
 
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