Pinnacle
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Well...............gonna sell that ole tub of yours and buy a Rag n Stick boat then?
I went on a CNB 60 at the Southampton show last year. Very impressed I was too. Would do me nicely for an Atlantic circuit.
Let's be honest folks, we can't compete
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Well...............gonna sell that ole tub of yours and buy a Rag n Stick boat then?
I went on a CNB 60 at the Southampton show last year. Very impressed I was too. Would do me nicely for an Atlantic circuit.
rwoofer
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Never heard what happened in the court case - anyone know?
taz
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I don't think it can be published or discussed in detail..................part of the settlement/agreement terms.
He won, they agreed a figure.
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jfm
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That's the gorgeous grand bleu vintage which has lived in antibes at least 5 yrs. I've had the pleasure of a tour. Cnb is a very fine yard indeed. They built Hamilton for Charles dunstone plus the stunning chrisco ( which I've also been fortunate to go on board)
Cayman register allows each name to be use 3x. Once with George Town, once with bloody bay and once with a 3 rd port whose name I forgot. at time of registering the b60 our magnum still owned the predator72 which was George Town reg andd therefore he registered the b60 in bloody bay so he could use the name magnum. It is a very user friendly registry. Surely you remember this mapis from our cayman registry = tax evasion debAte!
I totally agree your main point about the beauty of sailing boats
Cayman register allows each name to be use 3x. Once with George Town, once with bloody bay and once with a 3 rd port whose name I forgot. at time of registering the b60 our magnum still owned the predator72 which was George Town reg andd therefore he registered the b60 in bloody bay so he could use the name magnum. It is a very user friendly registry. Surely you remember this mapis from our cayman registry = tax evasion debAte!
I totally agree your main point about the beauty of sailing boats
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jfm
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Magnum cannot comment himself. I wrote about it on here at the time because you could see what was happening from court proceedings. Basically magnum won, as was the correct answer, and sun seeker wrote a large cheque. The boat is prably sold or for sale on the used market after a paint job
rwoofer
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Given what little I knew I was surprised that Sunseeker bothered with the legal feeds to go to court. I guess we will not know the full story on that.
Back to raggy things, I had a look around Hamilton in Palma earlier in the year and wow what a boat. The hull looks so incredibly fair and smooth and even the prop can retract into the hull. Would love to be able to sail her.
Back to raggy things, I had a look around Hamilton in Palma earlier in the year and wow what a boat. The hull looks so incredibly fair and smooth and even the prop can retract into the hull. Would love to be able to sail her.
MapisM
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LOL, naah, too old (...and too lazy, TBH), to bother!
Otoh, in a next life, who knows?
MapisM
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I do, but can't recall talking about Bloody Bay and/or other Cayman locations.
Do you mean that there is actually a place/harbour called BB anywhere in the C.I., or do they use the name of the bay where the dive spot is?
Just curious...
MapisM
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Oh, btw J, I forgot to mention: not sure is she was built like that (roughly 10 years ago, as I understand), or it was a refitting, but her deck - all 95' of it - has white caulking.
And I must say that it looks beautiful in flesh, so I guess I might have to reconsider my opinion also on your choice for M2...
...though I'm sure you'll agree that neither Magnum nor the masterpiece posted by scubaman are too shabby, with their black caulking!
jfm
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When i was arguing that the CI registry is very user friendly and convenient, one thing I said was that you can use each name 3x so you have much more likelihood to get the name of your choice at Cayman than say UK. That is a significant advnatage of the CI registry, esp when you combine it with the other advantages like more www enabled dealings with the registry (ie, pretty much everything is online)
While you can register each name 3x, in George Town, Bloody Bay and The Creek, tbh I have no idea whether BB and TC are proper ports or merely little anchorages! I have never actually been to the Cayman Islands. No doubt google earth can help you
jfm
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Oh, btw J, I forgot to mention: not sure is she was built like that (roughly 10 years ago, as I understand), or it was a refitting, but her deck - all 95' of it - has white caulking.
And I must say that it looks beautiful in flesh, so I guess I might have to reconsider my opinion also on your choice for M2...
...though I'm sure you'll agree that neither Magnum nor the masterpiece posted by scubaman are too shabby, with their black caulking!
Black is not shabby by any means. But white is beautiful to look at in the sun, and if you chuck away prejudices it is surely the nicer choice? Chrisco has white, btw. I dont know if GBV has had new decks - I'll check some old photos I have of her about 4 yrs ago
MapisM
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Neither do I actually, I was just guessing because if her current deck is still the original 10 yo stuff, well, I'm envious.
Even more than I already was, that is...
wakeup
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The CNB yacht below just arrived in my marina, and I had the opportunity to see her in the flesh. WOW is all I can say.
We must admit it, when it comes to sheer beauty, we moboers don't stand a chance.
There are indeed some elegant mobos around, but these things are simply in another league!
They look beautiful Mapis but not comfortable. Look at all those folks on deck holding on for dear life. I've tried sailing a few times now, Swan 55 and couple of Benny's admittedly not in this league but they all have one thing in common bloody uncomfortable when underway. You try bracing yourself, re-positioning higher up the windward side but the boat just does not seem to be designed with any sort of comfortable cruising position in mind. I do not understand how people on the other side can bear long passage making in the things.
MapisM
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Well, at first glance it seems that there's indeed only the beach (in fact, it's even hard to understand why they call it a bay!) I had in mind.No doubt google earth can help you
Not that it's worth loosing our sleep on this doubt, anyway...
MapisM
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Yep, good point.
Though lately I came to the conclusion that there isn't such thing as a comfortable long passage on anything afloat.
If you really want to go places, FL380 at 500 knots is much better than FL0 at 10 knots...!
...and my point was about beauty, anyway.
taz
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The passage isn't the problem..............I bet it's trying to walk straight and not like you're pi**ed.
I believe this guy had just stepped ashore after such a passage.
I believe this guy had just stepped ashore after such a passage.
rafiki_
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I've crewed yachts up to 70 ft, and in normal, UK conditions they are not uncomfortable, except when racing, when you do whatever to eek out the extra speed. I'm not sure I fancy the Southern Oceans though, neither would I on my Mobo.
wakeup
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Err what a stabilised mobo is no more comfortable? Come on mapis, you have to concede that ain't right. You have been one of the arch proponents of stabilised mobos versus othe modes of boating for quite some time.
wakeup
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I've crewed yachts up to 70 ft, and in normal, UK conditions they are not uncomfortable, except when racing, when you do whatever to eek out the extra speed. I'm not sure I fancy the Southern Oceans though, neither would I on my Mobo.
Well I suppose it comes down to definitions of comfort. If you don't mind sitting in at an unusual angle with yards of rope round your feet, spray hitting you every minute, fumes from the diesel putter of an engine coz it can't out run its own exhaust, can't walk down to the bow without banging your noggin on some ancient type of rigging still in use in 21st C then I guess it is comfortable yes indeed.
MapisM
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Yep, and I'm not denying that. I did say your point was a good one, it's just that for "long passages" I'd rather fly regardless of how comfy ANY boat is, life's too short...
Otoh, I wouldn't mind some odd cruises on one of the above yachts, even if for comfort alone a stabilized mobo of comparable size (and at comparable speed) is bound to be better.